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Len
September 27th, 2009, 12:52 PM
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kornerking
April 7th, 2010, 08:03 AM
Paul, When I first joined RC there was a lot of good information available. Seemed to be a good place to learn. It now seems that over the winter it has downgraded to a bunch of pissing and moaning. Has RC turned into an episode of the Jerry Springer show?

I know you say the forum belongs to the guys. Seems to be the same 8-10. I appreciate all of the support and encouragement I received but am about to pull the plug on RC.

Any feedback to tell me what I am missing?

fez-head
April 7th, 2010, 08:18 AM
MMMM.... I say Ban those 8-10 and that should solve everything. You dont see that crap over on JLC - those guys really know how to run a dry forum.

DavidC
April 7th, 2010, 08:59 AM
Paul, When I first joined RC there was a lot of good information available. Seemed to be a good place to learn. It now seems that over the winter it has downgraded to a bunch of pissing and moaning. Has RC turned into an episode of the Jerry Springer show?

I know you say the forum belongs to the guys. Seems to be the same 8-10. I appreciate all of the support and encouragement I received but am about to pull the plug on RC.

Any feedback to tell me what I am missing?

I'm not The Paul, but I do like to watch PBS. My personal theory is it has been a slow winter with little work and this is a distraction. Accordingly, as work picks up the content should improve. I hope you stick around to see it.

That and $1.29 will get you a cup of coffee at Stewart's.

Good Luck
Dave

Silvertree
April 7th, 2010, 09:49 AM
Sometimes things change before they change.

If you think its no good I understand your leaving. There are many forums, maybe you'll find one you like better.

Good luck with Korner King.


Sayonara

kornerking
April 7th, 2010, 10:09 AM
Good answer Paul, I liked Dave's better though.

fez-head
April 7th, 2010, 10:45 AM
what about my answer? ;)

Silvertree
April 7th, 2010, 11:21 AM
what about my answer? ;)

I like your answer best Fez:2thumbsup:

fez-head
April 7th, 2010, 11:44 AM
Thank you Paul.

Bender
April 7th, 2010, 10:16 PM
Paul, When I first joined RC there was a lot of good information available. Seemed to be a good place to learn. It now seems that over the winter it has downgraded to a bunch of pissing and moaning. Has RC turned into an episode of the Jerry Springer show?

I know you say the forum belongs to the guys. Seems to be the same 8-10. I appreciate all of the support and encouragement I received but am about to pull the plug on RC.

Any feedback to tell me what I am missing?

You just point em out KK:mad:
Me an modern an bodger an fez an neo an blue an meetre an leo will be on em like stink on pig:mad:

Blue
April 7th, 2010, 10:44 PM
Paul, When I first joined RC there was a lot of good information available. Seemed to be a good place to learn. It now seems that over the winter it has downgraded to a bunch of pissing and moaning. Has RC turned into an episode of the Jerry Springer show?

I know you say the forum belongs to the guys. Seems to be the same 8-10. I appreciate all of the support and encouragement I received but am about to pull the plug on RC.

Any feedback to tell me what I am missing?

It is like that on any forum. You have the regulars that post a lot. Nature of the forum biz. I haven't noticed the moaning lately since some of the renegade painters were killed off by the Taliban.

Honestly I enjoy a good complaining and moaning thread, but I can understand why some don't. There is a tremendous amount of valuable info on here if you are the type that enjoys just researching and not posting.

nEighter
April 7th, 2010, 11:09 PM
You just point em out KK:mad:
Me an modern an bodger an fez an neo an blue an meetre an leo will be on em like stink on pig:mad:

Me and Pete are tight.. I have already set up perimeter round his computer..

:rifle:

Dusty
April 8th, 2010, 12:25 AM
What would you like to see here? RC has a great blog. And the forums do offer a lot of information. I quess us regulars don't have a lot of questions, but when we do someone is there to answer them.
My guess is that you are just bored. With your experience you are now in the 'mentor mode' and eager to answer newbie questions.

kornerking
April 8th, 2010, 08:57 AM
Good Morning, Thanks for the feedback. Just to clarify regarding the 8-10 headcount. To me this seems to be the # of people posting. Early on there seemed to be a lot more people involved with the discussion. Yes we all need to get things off our chests. My concern is that the "whining" is driving posters away.

Being raised in the positive attitude mode ( Power of positive thinking, Think and grow rich, Fish, and my mothers favorite" Can't never got anywhere and died in the poor house") I wonder if the negativity is becoming self fullfilling.

Dave, you may be right in that the only ones left with time to post are us "retired" guys or those without much work. In the past when this happened to me the fear set in and I tended to lash out at those who were doing this to me.

Blue, I love a good bs and bashing session as well as the next guy. It just seemed to me that this was becoming the norm. The only problem with getting older is I find there are more shades of gray between black and white than when I was a pup.

Dusty, are you suggesting I'm getting "old"? Am I getting to be one of those guys I used to hate who gave me advice whether I wanted it or not. Bored I'm not. I only retired from kitchens, not business. Setting KornerKing up on a national level is taking all of my energy and maybe this is part of my reasoning.

To all, piss and moan all you want. It is our forum. Let's just be carefull that we don't end up preaching to the choir because the silent majority has left.

PETE

ps :Nate, you can open the gate again

Dusty
April 8th, 2010, 06:49 PM
Dusty, are you suggesting I'm getting "old"? Am I getting to be one of those guys I used to hate who gave me advice whether I wanted it or not. Bored I'm not. I only retired from kitchens, not business. Setting KornerKing up on a national level is taking all of my energy and maybe this is part of my reasoning.



No, Sir. Didn't mean to imply that at all.

It has been my experience that seasoned business people enjoy passing on their knowledge and skills. Seasoned by no means refers to age, but knowledge.

I did not mean to offend you and I apologize if you took my comment the wrong way.

Blue
April 8th, 2010, 06:57 PM
Good Morning, Early on there seemed to be a lot more people involved with the discussion.



Most users ever online was 95, March 30th, 2010 at 07:52 PM. (9 days ago)

Mike(VA)
April 8th, 2010, 07:04 PM
KK, you are signed up for the pissing and moaning threads. TD and The Boardroom are just that. I agree that there seems to be a dearth of information posts in the public sections, but you have to credit The Paul, Chris, Rory, and several others who strive to post useful info. Hang in there; food is coming. :laugh3:

kornerking
April 8th, 2010, 08:23 PM
No, Sir. Didn't mean to imply that at all.

It has been my experience that seasoned business people enjoy passing on their knowledge and skills. Seasoned by no means refers to age, but knowledge.

I did not mean to offend you and I apologize if you took my comment the wrong way.

Dusty, i Knew what you meant. Just joking about me getting old. I actually am. I think I like that term maybe better than seasoned. Makes me sound like old stew meat.:)

Hey all, just an observation is all this posting is about. If I am off base accept my sincere apology. Then get to work and do something positive

nEighter
April 8th, 2010, 08:48 PM
Eye Eye cap'en

naptownCr
April 9th, 2010, 12:30 AM
KK
One of the problems here is that the members are already too seasoned and wise.
This forum was built from the best of CT and other forums.

The downside is that we already know the answers to most questions and therefore don't ask them.

However the willingness to answer the most mundane question from the uber newbie without a flaming is what sets us apart.

I humbly ask you to stay as a bloody vet of the remodeling wars to help the guys who are new to the business get a start in the right direction and help them avoid the pitfalls we all encountered along the way.

Thius is what I truly think of RC and it's mission.

It will take some time to grow and attract the new members but you are a core member and your thoughts and opinions are sincere and welcome!

Bodger
April 9th, 2010, 10:33 PM
Any feedback to tell me what I am missing?

Yes, and you are missing plenty.

To me in many ways RC is like a job site populated by experienced people. A lot of the work is on auto-pilot, the average task at hand often doesn't warrant a whole lot of conversation amongst the seasoned troops, everyone's been there and done that.

So, the conversation turns to world events, concerns over the economy, spirited yet civil debate on politics, and ribald humor.

But then frequently someone will build something amazing that needs admiring, or get a new tool and throw it out for everyone to grunt over, or a new baby comes along and it's cigars and congrats all 'round.
Or someone will ask for another set of eyes on something they are about to build and get good ideas and insight.
One of the things I like best about RC is the fact that you can ask for opinions and not get flamed and told you should already know that if you call yourself a contractor. That's a testimony to the civility of the group here on RC, not an indication that there is less experience amongst its members.


I don't see much moaning in the threads Leo frequently starts about his various projects, or the kitchen rescue Chris is wrapping up. What I see there is good information being imparted by journeyman craftsmen who are showcasing their stellar work, and fellow tradesmen offering praise, opinion and asking questions the answers to which are educational to all.

Not for nuthin' Pete, but if all you're seeing on RC these days is pissing and moaning, you might want to re-visit that "positive attitude mode" you were raised in.
There's a lot more positive going on than negative, and I guarantee that as RC grows, that will continue to be the case.

But, as has been pointed out, there are a lot of forums out there and you might find one that fits your pistol better than RC.
If that's the case, like the man said, Sayonara buddy. We'll keep the coffee hot in case you come back.
And the cups here are always half full, not half empty. :grin:

ModernStyle
April 9th, 2010, 10:57 PM
I only know about paint and coatings, nobody ever asks about paint and coatings ....... I am a failure.

RCP
April 9th, 2010, 11:11 PM
I only know about paint and coatings, nobody ever asks about paint and coatings ....... I am a failure.

Not true, your collection of umm, "unusual" photographs is rivaled only by Taters Youtube collection!

afkama
April 9th, 2010, 11:30 PM
I only know about paint and coatings, nobody ever asks about paint and coatings ....... I am a failure.

I began to weep when I read that.

I have a client who wants to paint the concrete floor in the garage. Auto traffic areas will be left bare concrete, but there is a large area that is dedicated to storage. Normally I would just sub this out, but right now I am doing as much in house to keep the guys busy.
Don't have a clue what to use.
Any suggestions?

This is my small contribution to the 'boost modern's self esteem' effort.

I encourage all you whiners and moaners to participate in this worthy and positive undertaking.

Bodger
April 9th, 2010, 11:38 PM
I hope nobody minds that this is the wrong forum for such discussions.
OOPS! Pissing and moaning pissing and moaning!:laugh3::laugh3:

afkama
April 9th, 2010, 11:44 PM
I hope nobody minds that this is the wrong forum for such discussions.
OOPS! Pissing and moaning pissing and moaning!:laugh3::laugh3:

We can only hope they are better at contracting than they are at moderating.

moan.

naptownCr
April 9th, 2010, 11:46 PM
I began to weep when I read that.

I have a client who wants to paint the concrete floor in the garage. Auto traffic areas will be left bare concrete, but there is a large area that is dedicated to storage. Normally I would just sub this out, but right now I am doing as much in house to keep the guys busy.
Don't have a clue what to use.
Any suggestions?

This is my small contribution to the 'boost modern's self esteem' effort.

I encourage all you whiners and moaners to participate in this worthy and positive undertaking.

Actually I have the same problem. a previous owner painted the garage floor with a floor enamel and it is peeling up.
how do I fix this.
Remember I a violently alegeric to paint and sundries.

nEighter
April 10th, 2010, 12:08 AM
you guys fix it by renting a floor sander, profile the floor and lay down a double tough epoxy floor coating. The only way. HIGH SOLIDS. If you want I will have a guy who is an actual epoxy manufacture come here and let you know. RCP, Modern.. all the PT guys know him. But he will be your best bet for official floor coatings. Don't go cheap, they will need a good coating, and don't charge cheap.. let them know to have it stand up... they will need to spend a decent coin on it.

naptownCr
April 10th, 2010, 12:17 AM
Mine will be a DIY project in my own garage

nEighter
April 10th, 2010, 12:28 AM
let me find a snipit of what he just wrote about a similar project.

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 12:55 AM
Put some Behr on it

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 01:06 AM
For just foot traffic the kits at the Home Depot would work as long as the floor was prepared properly. Acid etch it, make sure it is dry, you can check it by taping a 2 foot square of plastic to the floor overnight, if there is moisture on the plastic the next day then it aint dry. You can also speed up the drying process by using a propane weed burner on the floor.
The main thing when doing a concrete floor is to get all of the sealer off of it before applying the new finish, shot blasting is the best way, but not very practical for a small job, just acid etch it a couple of times and it should be ok for just light foot traffic.

afkama
April 10th, 2010, 01:21 AM
you guys fix it by renting a floor sander, profile the floor and lay down a double tough epoxy floor coating. The only way. HIGH SOLIDS. If you want I will have a guy who is an actual epoxy manufacture come here and let you know. RCP, Modern.. all the PT guys know him. But he will be your best bet for official floor coatings. Don't go cheap, they will need a good coating, and don't charge cheap.. let them know to have it stand up... they will need to spend a decent coin on it.

What's on there now is some kind of 'latex epoxy'.
Garbage of course.
So is the recommendation that I use a floor sander to get the existing off, etch the concrete and then use a good two part epoxy?

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 01:26 AM
Nap ........ I am betting that there was little if any prep done to your floor. Getting all of the old epoxy up would either involve some nasty chemicals or renting a floor blasting machine, atleast to do it properly. You could try an acid etch followed by a pressure wash to see how much comes loose then just recoat with an epoxy, worst case would be it would peel again. I never like to do an epoxy coating on a garage floor if it is used daily, the winter salts and the hot tires in the summer tend to tear up even the high dollar coatings. I will do a garage floor, but I dont warranty it, too risky.

nEighter
April 10th, 2010, 01:27 AM
Personally... I would not think that $1 per ft2 would be worth the application of a 2K waterbased material. At the end of the day you have a weak coating that is microporous. And, by the time you put on a million coats it becomes un-affordable.

While 2 component waterbased epoxy coatings are better than most acrylic coatings they pale in comparison to 100% solids epoxies that do not contain water or solvent.

These products are more expensive per gallon but yield much higher dry film thicknesses.

Thickness matters! you just can't expect a paint that is less than the thickness of a piece of paper to hold up.

The bitter memory of a failing floor lingers long after the memory of the cheap price has faded.
__________________
Wolverine Coatings Corporation
Manufacturers of Polymer Flooring, Tank Linings, Pipe Linings, Chemical Containment Coatings & Linings
http://www.WolverineCoatings.com

this guy has the answers

nEighter
April 10th, 2010, 01:30 AM
http://www.painttalk.com/f4/epoxy-floor-8496/

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 01:33 AM
I would try a palm sander in an area where the stuff seems to be sticking pretty good, if it brings it up then I would consider renting a larger sander. It might come up pretty easy if it is a waterborne product.

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 01:34 AM
Brother Cooter could have given you the answers but Brother Cooter aint with us anymore.

nEighter
April 10th, 2010, 01:40 AM
buzzed and tired. Night all.

kornerking
April 10th, 2010, 08:37 AM
Yes, and you are missing plenty.

To me in many ways RC is like a job site populated by experienced people. A lot of the work is on auto-pilot, the average task at hand often doesn't warrant a whole lot of conversation amongst the seasoned troops, everyone's been there and done that.

So, the conversation turns to world events, concerns over the economy, spirited yet civil debate on politics, and ribald humor.

But then frequently someone will build something amazing that needs admiring, or get a new tool and throw it out for everyone to grunt over, or a new baby comes along and it's cigars and congrats all 'round.
Or someone will ask for another set of eyes on something they are about to build and get good ideas and insight.
One of the things I like best about RC is the fact that you can ask for opinions and not get flamed and told you should already know that if you call yourself a contractor. That's a testimony to the civility of the group here on RC, not an indication that there is less experience amongst its members.


I don't see much moaning in the threads Leo frequently starts about his various projects, or the kitchen rescue Chris is wrapping up. What I see there is good information being imparted by journeyman craftsmen who are showcasing their stellar work, and fellow tradesmen offering praise, opinion and asking questions the answers to which are educational to all.

Not for nuthin' Pete, but if all you're seeing on RC these days is pissing and moaning, you might want to re-visit that "positive attitude mode" you were raised in.
There's a lot more positive going on than negative, and I guarantee that as RC grows, that will continue to be the case.

But, as has been pointed out, there are a lot of forums out there and you might find one that fits your pistol better than RC.
If that's the case, like the man said, Sayonara buddy. We'll keep the coffee hot in case you come back.
And the cups here are always half full, not half empty. :grin:

Damn, my head is hanging and my ass is sore. You are right the glass is half full. I must be like a lot of people. Needing a good head-banging and ass kicking to make me see . :grin:

Now back to that painting issue.......

fez-head
April 10th, 2010, 08:55 AM
I only know about paint and coatings, nobody ever asks about paint and coatings ....... I am a failure.


I have a bunch of nasty 1960's press board cabinets with dark stain that will need to be painted for our next flip. They are in good solid condition but have a greasy film. I am thinking HVLP gun but what kind of blocking primer and paint is best? If it's anything like painting paneling this will be a biotch.

Replacement or refacing is not really an option on this one.

Silvertree
April 10th, 2010, 09:08 AM
Good cleaner to remove grease.

For not much more (unless your doing the painting) you can reface the cabinets. Looks better, lasts longer.

Find someone in your area to teach you refacing.2

Bender
April 10th, 2010, 09:15 AM
Well put Nap and Bodger:)
I enjoy the folks here because most of us are good at what we do, which lends a certain kind of confidence.
I enjoy the variety of trades here as well. Its a chance to learn. I cant stand the painter forums because, well, they're painters:grin:


Mr Pete. It sounds like you took this silly little idea and went big time with it. I for one would love to hear more about:)

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 09:52 AM
You gotta clean them up a little Fez, no primer will stick to grease.
Buy an airless Fez, even the cheap Graco units at Home Depot aint too bad. You can pick up a piston pump, dont buy the diaphram unit, for about $300. If you are gonna be flipping alot of houses then it will come in real handy, you can spray aluminum siding, interior trim, cabinets, doors, and it is alot faster then an HVLP.
I normally will clean the cabinets with some TSP, then lightly sand them to remove the sheen. I prime them with Gripper from ICI/Glidden, that stuff will stick to anything, they also sell it at the Home Depot if you dot have a ICI/Glidden store near buy. You can build that primer up pretty high and it wont sag like some other primer. It is also great for outside work, lay that primer on some rough cedar and a top coat of satin and it will look almost like vinyl siding.
I would prime the cabinets with the Gripper, then go back and touch up any bleed through stains with a spray can of BIN or CoverStain, I dont like to run oil based products through my sprayer anymore so I just use the spray cans. If you did a good job cleaning and sanding the cabinets then it shouldnt have too many stains coming through.
For the top coat I would use Sherwin Williams Pro Classic Acrylic Semi-gloss, dont buy the satin, the satin looks flat.
I would remove all of the door and drawers and spray them, the box portion of the cabinets I would paint with a good foam roller to minimize stipple and brush marks.
You should consider just marketing cabinet painting as one of your services, I get tons of calls for it after people see the pics on my website. The ones on my website I charged $2200 for and they took me all of 3 days to do with maybe $100 worth of materials.

nEighter
April 10th, 2010, 10:56 AM
Well put Nap and Bodger:)
I enjoy the folks here because most of us are good at what we do, which lends a certain kind of confidence.
I enjoy the variety of trades here as well. Its a chance to learn. I cant stand the painter forums because, well, they're painters:grin:


Mr Pete. It sounds like you took this silly little idea and went big time with it. I for one would love to hear more about:)

I don''t know anyone on here who isn't good.. elaborate mr. bender

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 12:49 PM
I am thinking now that maybe I should market the cabinets as "Cabinet Makeovers" or something along that line, cabinet painting just seems to bland and might give the impression that I am just gonna brush some wall paint on their cabinets

kornerking
April 10th, 2010, 01:02 PM
Cabinet Make-overs is a much friendlier term.

Have you considered using a colored lacquer? This is what I use on all "painted cabinets". It seals bleed through and gives a satin smooth finish. Yes it does have to be sprayed.

bconley
April 10th, 2010, 01:17 PM
Though I agree with everything Modern said, Korner has it right for quick and easy.
It will be a nasty job but it is forgiving, for a one time flip the way to go.
We did an apt. to condo conversion with the same type of cabs, 30 units all sprayed with white lacquer it will cover 30yrs of grime no problem.
Not the best way but the cheapest.
X's 2 on the Pro Classic for trim, but have had problems with it on cabinets.
Spec. conversion varnish for the cabs.

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Normally I am working in an occupied house, spraying wouldnt be an option, especialy laquer. Little Timmy and Billy would think their toys have come to life, while mom and dad watch the walls melt.

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 01:25 PM
I use either the Pro Classic Acrylic or ICI Devflex for cabinets, the Pro Classic is way easier to work with, thats why I suggested it to Fez. The Devflex is thinner and easier to get runs, but once you get it right it is one of the toughest acrylic finishes around.

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 01:27 PM
Dont forget to caulk everything too, once you paint stained cabinets you will see all the seems and cracks, caulk it first.

WarnerConstInc.
April 10th, 2010, 01:30 PM
Normally I am working in an occupied house, spraying wouldnt be an option, especialy laquer. Little Timmy and Billy would think their toys have come to life, while mom and dad watch the walls melt.

I don't have any cabinets but, that sounds like a good time.
Could you just come over and spray some of that into the air then?:grin:

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 01:33 PM
I worked with a old guy once who got high on laquer while spraying some 6 panel doors. Some how the stain screwed up and only the large middle cross section looked right. He called our boss and told him that God was trying to tell him something, the next day we all got new respirators

Blue
April 10th, 2010, 01:48 PM
I worked with a old guy once who got high on laquer while spraying some 6 panel doors. Some how the stain screwed up and only the large middle cross section looked right. He called our boss and told him that God was trying to tell him something, the next day we all got new respirators
What was he telling him. Please don't leave me hanging.

neolitic
April 10th, 2010, 01:53 PM
I always knew that there was unventilated
lacquer spraying in your back ground....http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilie/smiliethumbsup.gif


I've had many interesting,
but unproductive, days in houses
filled with lacquer fumes.

ChrWright
April 10th, 2010, 02:03 PM
I started as a painter in my teens. Can remember painting a block basement/cellar with an oil base waterproofer... No masks, no ventilation.

Came out for lunch after a few hours feeling 3 feet thick and way out of sorts.

My partner looked up after lunch and said, "Guess it's time to get back to work...where's my bucket?"

It was sitting in his lap.

:laugh3:

Blue
April 10th, 2010, 02:10 PM
I always knew that there was unventilated
lacquer spraying in your back ground....http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilie/smiliethumbsup.gif


Explains a lot doesn't it Neo.

neolitic
April 10th, 2010, 02:21 PM
I began to weep when I read that.

I have a client who wants to paint the concrete floor in the garage. Auto traffic areas will be left bare concrete, but there is a large area that is dedicated to storage. Normally I would just sub this out, but right now I am doing as much in house to keep the guys busy.
Don't have a clue what to use.
Any suggestions?

This is my small contribution to the 'boost modern's self esteem' effort.

I encourage all you whiners and moaners to participate in this worthy and positive undertaking.

Actually I have the same problem. a previous owner painted the garage floor with a floor enamel and it is peeling up.
how do I fix this.
Remember I a violently alegeric to paint and sundries.

I have used something like this....
http://www.sunbeltrentals.com/equipment/equipment.aspx?itemid=0320040&catid=s340

but the one I rented wasn't that pretty. :grin:



Good to know where Wolverine disappeared to. http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilie/smilienotworthy.gif

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 02:26 PM
What was he telling him. Please don't leave me hanging.

I dont know, he was a deeply religious man. He once came to work and told us all that he was raffling off his Camaro for the church, tried to sell eveyone tickets. He probably got a few hundred off the guys working there. I didn buy any tickets so I never asked about who won. Six months go by and he drives the Camaro in, I ask him about the raffle and he looks confused, finally a light goes off in his head and he says "Oh yeah I won that raffle" . The lord works in mysterious ways .......

Bender
April 10th, 2010, 02:28 PM
I only know about paint and coatings, nobody ever asks about paint and coatings ....... I am a failure.

You paint!?? Whats your favorite paintbrush?

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 02:29 PM
I finger paint

Silvertree
April 10th, 2010, 03:28 PM
Rory fingers painters.

fez-head
April 10th, 2010, 07:08 PM
You gotta clean them up a little Fez, no primer will stick to grease.
Buy an airless Fez, even the cheap Graco units at Home Depot aint too bad. You can pick up a piston pump, dont buy the diaphram unit, for about $300. If you are gonna be flipping alot of houses then it will come in real handy, you can spray aluminum siding, interior trim, cabinets, doors, and it is alot faster then an HVLP.
I normally will clean the cabinets with some TSP, then lightly sand them to remove the sheen. I prime them with Gripper from ICI/Glidden, that stuff will stick to anything, they also sell it at the Home Depot if you dot have a ICI/Glidden store near buy. You can build that primer up pretty high and it wont sag like some other primer. It is also great for outside work, lay that primer on some rough cedar and a top coat of satin and it will look almost like vinyl siding.
I would prime the cabinets with the Gripper, then go back and touch up any bleed through stains with a spray can of BIN or CoverStain, I dont like to run oil based products through my sprayer anymore so I just use the spray cans. If you did a good job cleaning and sanding the cabinets then it shouldnt have too many stains coming through.
For the top coat I would use Sherwin Williams Pro Classic Acrylic Semi-gloss, dont buy the satin, the satin looks flat.
I would remove all of the door and drawers and spray them, the box portion of the cabinets I would paint with a good foam roller to minimize stipple and brush marks.
You should consider just marketing cabinet painting as one of your services, I get tons of calls for it after people see the pics on my website. The ones on my website I charged $2200 for and they took me all of 3 days to do with maybe $100 worth of materials.


I guess you really are good for somethin' after all.

Thanks Pal. :2thumbsup:

Eieio
April 10th, 2010, 07:10 PM
Rory fingers painters.

Took me two days to get this..:laugh3:

fez-head
April 10th, 2010, 07:11 PM
I am thinking now that maybe I should market the cabinets as "Cabinet Makeovers" or something along that line, cabinet painting just seems to bland and might give the impression that I am just gonna brush some wall paint on their cabinets

"Cabinets Made Beautiful" Modern Style Painting

Blue
April 10th, 2010, 07:24 PM
Conscientious Cabinets. "We don't care if you have facial tiks or wear diapers."

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 07:54 PM
Rory fingers painters.

Just the illegal ones that are scared to report him to the authorities
He comes at me and I will drop a dime on him with the quickness

naptownCr
April 10th, 2010, 08:09 PM
Took me two days to get this..:laugh3:

Well you were drunk for at least one of them

fez-head
April 10th, 2010, 08:15 PM
Just the illegal ones that are scared to report him to the authorities
He comes at me and I will drop a dime on him with the quickness

Tater told me that Rory has wide fingers.... I never put 2 and 2 together till just now.... Poor Tater.

Eieio
April 10th, 2010, 08:17 PM
Tater told me that Rory has wide fingers.... I never put 2 and 2 together till just now.... Poor Tater.

They are not wide, they are thick.. :rolleyes3:

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 08:19 PM
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Now these 2 are both painting the same cabinets, I understand this. But the girl is a filthy liar because the old man has Super Paint Latex, and she says to use oil but has cleverly turned her can around so you can not see what she is working with.

neolitic
April 10th, 2010, 09:00 PM
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Now these 2 are both painting the same cabinets, I understand this. But the girl is a filthy liar because the old man has Super Paint Latex, and she says to use oil but has cleverly turned her can around so you can not see what she is working with.

I would like her to paint my cabinets.
I would cleverly turn her can around too.

neolitic
April 10th, 2010, 09:01 PM
She appears to be a painter
worth fingering....

fez-head
April 10th, 2010, 09:06 PM
oh goodness

ModernStyle
April 10th, 2010, 09:20 PM
She is a liar ........ I would rather spend an evening with the old man. I mean sure he screwed up some decent cabinets by brushing them, and he must be sniffing his liquid deglosser if he thinks it is as good as sanding, but he never lied about the finish coat.

naptownCr
April 10th, 2010, 09:34 PM
I think the difference between the two is product placement.
Most of the decorating shows will black out the labels on paint etc.

angel
May 29th, 2010, 07:25 AM
hello,
Nice blog i like it
Thanks