It's here, it's here, it's here!!!!

[WarnerConstInc.]

More to come, oh boy, oh boy!!!

[neolitic]

I bet it's not the baby.
I bet it is green.

[ChrWright]

One of Darcy's rooms is getting crown molding tonight I'd wager... :laugh3:


Don't forget, you have to name it.... "This is my Kapex, there are many like it but this one is mine..."

:grin:

[WarnerConstInc.]

I am going to do a little playing with it, I want to see what it does straight out of the box.

Then I will give it a once over and tune anything up and run the same test again.

She sure is pretty, sitting there on her table....

[ChrWright]

I am going to do a little playing with it, I want to see what it does straight out of the box.

Then I will give it a once over and tune anything up and run the same test again.

She sure is pretty, sitting there on her table....

Ahhh...so it's a "she"...

[WarnerConstInc.]

Ahhh...so it's a "she"...

As much as is costs, has to be a woman!!:grin:

[ChrWright]

As much as is costs, has to be a woman!!:grin:

:laugh3::laugh3::laugh3:

[JasonW]

You bought the Kapex! :)

[ChrWright]

Good thing you've got the vac... It would be a shame to sully her up with sawdust.

[SLS-Construction]

This thread is worthless without pics of you & your new girl :laugh3:

[ChrWright]

Yeah, stop flapping your gums and go cut something...

[WarnerConstInc.]

You bought the Kapex! :)

Yes, and the Kapex MFT/3.

This thread is worthless without pics of you & your new girl :laugh3:

Let me re-arrange some things and eat dinner and were on!!

I wonder which side is her good side?

[ChrWright]

Does MFT stand for "MotherF-ingTable" ?

[JasonW]

Does MFT stand for "MotherF-ingTable" ?

Some times :laugh3:

[WarnerConstInc.]

Does MFT stand for "MotherF-ingTable" ?

Some times!!!

Short for: multi-function table.

For a shop or job site, these tables are the bomb!! I use mine all the time.

Darn you Jason, beat me by the click of the mouse!!

[Leo G]

But he still doesn't have a planer.

[WarnerConstInc.]

But he still doesn't have a planer.

I have totally forgotten about the planer, at least for the rest of this week!!

Insert: raining on my parade smiley.

[WarnerConstInc.]

Just moved a few things around and got stuff set-up.

I am not a fan of lasers at all, I will see.

I have not messed with the saw or calibrated or checked anything yet.

Set-up pictures and one of the lasers (right out of the box)

[Leo G]

Insert: raining on my parade smiley.

That's what I do...:mad2:

[Mike(VA)]

Lots of Festool green, I see in the background. You will come to like the lasers. I have a single on my Hitachi 10" and I can set it for either side. I set it for the right side of the blade only since that is the side that is the hardest to see under the motor housing since I am right-handed.

[neolitic]

Dual lasers on my Delta, and
I love it.
Not so much sneaking up on the cut,
not so much squinting in less than perfect light.

[WarnerConstInc.]

This is right out of the box, not adjusting anything.

Left laser is perfect, exactley on the cut line.
Right laser is out wide a little.

I need to learn to take better pictures.

[Silvertree]

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD CUTTING:2thumbsup:

[ChrWright]

This is right out of the box, not adjusting anything.

Left laser is perfect, exactley on the cut line.
Right laser is out wide a little.

I need to learn to take better pictures.


What in the world is that? It looks tiny...


(That's what she said.)

[Bodger]

As much as is costs, has to be a woman!!:grin:


You been looking on Craigslist massage ads again? :grin:

[WarnerConstInc.]

4 slices of tall base, all cut with 45's so they make a little square.

[WarnerConstInc.]

You been looking on Craigslist massage ads again? :grin:

Those were way cheaper!!!

[Bodger]

Those were way cheaper!!!


That is a beautiful saw. I'll bet it's quiet too.

[ChrWright]

Do you have a project lined up to christen it?

[WarnerConstInc.]

It is fairly quiet.

The angle finder that is comes with is awesome, think Bosch but, made for this saw.

The hold down clamp is super simple to use, cam action.

Dust collection is excellent, the micro dial bevel adjustment is awesome.

It's got a couple little quirks that are different than anything else I have used. I guess I need to get used to it.

[WarnerConstInc.]

Do you have a project lined up to christen it?

Well, I just straight lined all my boards for my kitchen floor, so next is squaring up the ends. I have some stuff for it, looking forward to some wood floor projects this winter as well.

Really wanting to see how it does dust collection wise with Azek and Miratec.

[Leo G]

Oooooo $1300 to square up some floor boards. You could have done that with a Ryobi.

[WarnerConstInc.]

Oooooo $1300 to square up some floor boards. You could have done that with a Ryobi.

Well you bought a new cabinet saw because you didn't want to change the bearings in the other one!!

I am highly sensitive to saw dust:mad2:

[Leo G]

I didn't buy a new saw because I needed to change out a bearing. My Daddy bought me a new saw because he didn't think I would ever get around to changing out a bearing. All part of my diabolical plan to have my Dad buy me a shopful of tools. [insert diabolical laugh here]

[WarnerConstInc.]

At least I sold a saw before I got this. Allthough the 6 bills I got from the other saw was like a security deposit for this one.

That table it's on is 390 bucks.

[Leo G]

Took in $600 and spent $1700. With a new kid in the house. Who's thinking with there Koolaid hat on?

[WarnerConstInc.]

Took in $600 and spent $1700. With a new kid in the house. Who's thinking with there Koolaid hat on?

The only thing I have to buy the baby is diapers and wipes. Thank goodness for the 4 year old and all her old clothes.

I also have to keep the milk factory well fed.

I am working on a way to re-use those disposable diapers!!

[Leo G]

They make great party favors.

[ChrWright]

Don't you have the diaper genie sausage maker?

http://www.redamedia.com/bubbles/genie.jpg

:laugh3:

[naptownCr]

glue them to the walls the gel goo will absorb the excess moisture in the house and the plastic will be a vapor barrier.

I am a genius and have solved your peeling paint problem too

[ChrWright]

glue them to the walls the gel goo will absorb the excess moisture in the house and the plastic will be a vapor barrier.

I am a genius and have solved your peeling paint problem too


Stuff your stud bays with them... What's the R-value of baby crap?

[WarnerConstInc.]

Don't you have the diaper genie sausage maker?

http://www.redamedia.com/bubbles/genie.jpg

:laugh3:

Funny story about one of those, and a diaper I threw in it and two years later.

glue them to the walls the gel goo will absorb the excess moisture in the house and the plastic will be a vapor barrier.

I am a genius and have solved your peeling paint problem too

Ewwwwwwww.

Stuff your stud bays with them... What's the R-value of baby crap?


I know what the P-U value is!!:laugh3:

[Bender]

Warner, what makes that so superior over my good 'ol dewalt sliding compound?
Cut quality?

[orson]

Warner, what makes that so superior over my good 'ol dewalt sliding compound?
Cut quality?

Hopefully being able to set the bevel without leaning over the saw on your tippy toes to look down on the bevel guage after clearing the sawdust out from under the guage marker for one thing...

[Leo G]

It cost $1300, that's why. :mad2:

[naptownCr]

I'll bet it breaks just as well as a Dewalt when it rolls out of the truck because you forgot to close the door all the way.
I would also imagine there being much more pain if it were stolen too

[WarnerConstInc.]

I'll bet it breaks just as well as a Dewalt when it rolls out of the truck because you forgot to close the door all the way.
I would also imagine there being much more pain if it were stolen too

Nah, then I get to order a new one on the insurance co's tab!!

Hold it, that is really my money, dang.

They got the serial number yesterday, she's well protected.

[WarnerConstInc.]

Warner, what makes that so superior over my good 'ol dewalt sliding compound?
Cut quality?

I am not real familiar with Dewalt's tools.

It's very light, about 45lbs.

Great dust collection.

Fine bevel adjustment knob, bevel is also counter balanced.

Comes with an angle finder (think Bosch but, made just for this saw) and not digital.

Really nice, easy to use hold down clamp.

Dual lasers, double saftey switch, fast electric brake, excellent blade guard.

Ability to add on acessories and different attachments.

Varible speed, electronicaly controled motor, with overload protection.

Fits into festools 'system' approach.

I dont want to bore you any more....:laugh3::laugh3:

Wide spread rails for saw head stability.

Can be backed right up to a wall, requires minima clearance behind the saw.

[orson]

I'm always amazed by the flaws in tool design.

All you have to do these days is use 5 or 6 different tools of the same type and you can quickly determine what works well and what doesn't.

Yet all major brands continue to produce tools with major design flaws.

I just bought the 12 inch sliding Bosch mitre saw and if you engage the detent override the blade shifts slightly to the right when you use the screw in type handle to lock the mitre.

That's just stupid.

[WarnerConstInc.]

I'm always amazed by the flaws in tool design.

All you have to do these days is use 5 or 6 different tools of the same type and you can quickly determine what works well and what doesn't.

Yet all major brands continue to produce tools with major design flaws.

I just bought the 12 inch sliding Bosch mitre saw and if you engage the detent override the blade shifts slightly to the right when you use the screw in type handle to lock the mitre.

That's just stupid.

I just sold that saw. I really liked that saw too. It was time for my miter saw to fit in with the rest of the tools though.

This saw has a few quirks as well. Where the angle finder stores keeps the saw from swinging all the way to 50 degrees left. If the tall fence is not in the right spot it will not go all the way to 60 right.

It's just a couple little things that seem to be no real way around on most saws.

[orson]

I was working in a busy downtown area one time and cutting some plywood with a DeWalt worm drive saw.

These two guys are walking by and one says "hey how do you like that saw?"

I said I didn't like it much, too heavy, crappy bearings and the way the framing hook is designed when you hang the saw from the hook the poorly designed plastic housing starts pulling apart at a seam.

I asked him what his interest was in the saw.

He said in an annoyed manner that he was an engineer that worked on the saw's design for the company that DeWalt contracted the design out to.

:2thumbsup:

[JasonW]

I just sold that saw. I really liked that saw too. It was time for my miter saw to fit in with the rest of the tools though.

This saw has a few quirks as well. Where the angle finder stores keeps the saw from swinging all the way to 50 degrees left. If the tall fence is not in the right spot it will not go all the way to 60 right.

It's just a couple little things that seem to be no real way around on most saws.

That's exactly why I won't buy it!

I even had the "festool guy that didn't give me a shirt or a hat" go tit for tat at my shop against my 10" Makita. Not much difference at all when you whip out the hard maple to really see how it handles.

I think they are going to do a re-design soon, so I'm waiting for that one. If not, I'll stick with what I got.

[WarnerConstInc.]

In their defense though, It is just a spot to store the angle unit, take it out when you are using the saw.

Every fence on every miter saw I have had, has been in the way during at least one function. I have cut every fence as well.

I hated the scale on my makita and the pain to reach behind the saw.

I hated how heavy my bosch was and the number marks are kind of big and the bevel lock needed constant adjustment.

No matter what, there is something that someone will not like about anything.
You cant please everyone.

It is the most accurate sliding saw I have used. The dust collection is awesome, and it is super light and super compact.

Come on Jason, just take a sip, once it hits your lips it's soo good!!!

[WarnerConstInc.]

I have a question, what are the max rpms of the other saws, ie: bosch, makita, milwaukee, dewalt, etc.

I have read information from blade companies that most 10 and 12 blades should not be spun at more than 3400 RPMs. When in excess of this speed it cause the blade to becom unsprung and cause wobble. Just curious.

Kapex is adjustable speed from 1400-3400 rpms.

[Bodger]

I was working in a busy downtown area one time and cutting some plywood with a DeWalt worm drive saw.

These two guys are walking by and one says "hey how do you like that saw?"

I said I didn't like it much, too heavy, crappy bearings and the way the framing hook is designed when you hang the saw from the hook the poorly designed plastic housing starts pulling apart at a seam.

I asked him what his interest was in the saw.

He said in an annoyed manner that he was an engineer that worked on the saw's design for the company that DeWalt contracted the design out to.

:2thumbsup:


That's good, those guys don't hear that stuff often enough. Some of the tools I've had were possessed of such annoying quirks I could tell they had not been field tested by working tradesmen.

[WarnerConstInc.]

On the re-design Jason, they are coming out with a stripped down model but that is it.

They said it will be at least 4 years before a new model is released.

[Leo G]

My Hitatchi 12" Slider spins at 3800 RPM's. I use the Forrest Chop Master blade on it which is a full 1/8" kerf and has a thick plate. Very little wobble.

[WarnerConstInc.]

My Hitatchi 12" Slider spins at 3800 RPM's. I use the Forrest Chop Master blade on it which is a full 1/8" kerf and has a thick plate. Very little wobble.

Good boy Leo.

That is a lot of the problems people have with saws.

[Leo G]

These guys go out and get a 12" blade and they opt for a thin kerf. WTF kind of thinking brings this on. I don't like using thin kerf blades on anything. I only use it when I actually need a thin kerf or I am cutting thin strips. I really hate it when I cut 1/16" strips using an 1/8" blade. 200% waste factor.

[Bodger]

I think I have seen blade stabilizers that fit on both sides of the arbor and supposedly reduce blade wobble.

Maybe they are more of a table saw device. And maybe they don't work.

[Leo G]

I have one for my 10" tablesaw. I thought about getting two and sandwiching the blade between them but it is stiff enough with just one. Plus, putting two of them on shifts the blade over making most of my throat plates worthless. The one I have is 5" is diameter, and it works great.

I have a 50 tooth combo blade that always has a bad wobble when you push it to fast. It is a slightly thin kerf blade. I put the stabilizer on it and was amazed at the cut this blade was giving now. I use an Amana 60 tooth for just about all cuts, including ripping. I change over to the 50 tooth when I go to 2" thick material. Recently I was cutting Birch and Soft Maple and used the combo blade. It was nice to not have the wobble and the ease of a rip blade.

[WarnerConstInc.]

It's all warm and fuzzy in here now.

Another thing is arbor size. The Kapex runs a 30mm bore.

[neolitic]

It's all warm and fuzzy in here now.

Another thing is arbor size. The Kapex runs a 30mm bore.

That's a huge hole!

[Bender]

I just sold my craftsmen radial arm saw. Most I could get for it was $100.00. Hell the cabinet was worth that:mad:

I put two skil saws on CL for 5 bucks each. Not one call in a month. Maybe I should relist them at $30:rolleyes3:

[WarnerConstInc.]

That's a huge hole!

It is a good sized bore.

On the small rail saws the bore on those blades is 20mm.

They say it is for stability and some other reason.

Actually, those are some common european bore size's.

[neolitic]

It is a good sized bore.

On the small rail saws the bore on those blades is 20mm.

They say it is for stability and some other reason.

Actually, those are some common european bore size's.

It's a long way from 5/8's to 1¼.

[WarnerConstInc.]

It's a long way from 5/8's to 1¼.

That is true, I keep comparing to my 12" which those blades had a 1" bore.

I forget this is a 10" (close to) saw.

It's been over a year and now tenryu is finally making some blades for the kapex.

I am not sure if the other blade manufacturer's can't get a 30 mm bore right or dont want to bother with it.

I should go snap a picture of some of Festool's blades, they are crazy.

[neolitic]

That is true, I keep comparing to my 12" which those blades had a 1" bore.

I forget this is a 10" (close to) saw.

It's been over a year and now tenryu is finally making some blades for the kapex.

I am not sure if the other blade manufacturer's can't get a 30 mm bore right or dont want to bother with it.

I should go snap a picture of some of Festool's blades, they are crazy.

Still a pretty small market,
but I'll bet Forrest jumps in soon.

[WarnerConstInc.]

Still a pretty small market,
but I'll bet Forrest jumps in soon.

I guess they have:

http://www.forrestsawbladesonline.com/search.html?keywords=kapex

It's actually about 10 bucks more than the 80t festool one.

The standard blade that comes with the saw is a 60t. Most user's say they have no need to go to the 80t.

Would that be anything like the small market for that old Rockwell of your's?

[neolitic]

I guess they have:

http://www.forrestsawbladesonline.com/search.html?keywords=kapex

It's actually about 10 bucks more than the 80t festool one.

The standard blade that comes with the saw is a 60t. Most user's say they have no need to go to the 80t.

Would that be anything like the small market for that old Rockwell of your's?

Mine isn't growing.....:o