Slow!

[Bodger]

What's up with the slowness of the site? For the past couple of days, I experience glitches. When it happens, I check other tabs I have open to see if it's my connection or computer. Other sites run fine during the RC slowdowns.

Am I doing something wrong? I just waited about five minutes for a reply to post up, and it happened a bunch of times before that tonight. And I've noticed it a lot this week and before.

[Dusty]

It's you. Not the site. It happens with age.

Yea. The speed on RC has been inconsistant.
I thought Len cleaned things up earlier this week, but I suppose mainting this site is an ongoing issue.

[Eieio]

What's up with the slowness of the site? For the past couple of days, I experience glitches. When it happens, I check other tabs I have open to see if it's my connection or computer. Other sites run fine during the RC slowdowns.

Am I doing something wrong? I just waited about five minutes for a reply to post up, and it happened a bunch of times before that tonight. And I've noticed it a lot this week and before.

are u running firefox?

[Dusty]

Should we be?

[Eieio]

Should we be? I think so Chrome and Firefox run extremely fast in comparison to most browsers.. take them for a spin and see the difference it is like night and day

[Bodger]

I'll check out Firefox, but unless RC runs better with Firefox, it isn't my browser that's the problem. I just waited a full seven minutes after clicking on the post reply tab before I could type this post.

Meanwhile, I was on two other sites posting and did some Googling and everything was running fast as hell.

It only happens to me on RC with any regularity.

[Eieio]

I'll check out Firefox, but unless RC runs better with Firefox, it isn't my browser that's the problem. I just waited a full seven minutes after clicking on the post reply tab before I could type this post.

Meanwhile, I was on two other sites posting and did some Googling and everything was running fast as hell.

It only happens to me on RC with any regularity.


Len will probably see this and respond..

Since he made the latest updates it has been running very well on my end.. I had issues before but been pretty good lately..

[nEighter]

I am riding dino the dinosaur online nowadays but yeah there is some serious wait time and time outs lately

[Len]

If anybody is having an issue that you think is on our end I need more specific info.


What's up with the slowness of the site? For the past couple of days, I experience glitches. When it happens, I check other tabs I have open to see if it's my connection or computer. Other sites run fine during the RC slowdowns.Is like me telling you... what's up with your plumber? The neighbors plumbed theirs in one day.


I need something more specific.


What you were doing? (creating new thread, uploading and image, navigating from one page to the next and in which forum)
Did you have chat windows active?
What was the symptom? (slowness, error page, logged off)
What browser are you using and version (Fifrefox 3.5, IE7)
What time did you experience this? (central time please, so I don't loose something on the conversion)



We have had some intermittent issues I'm trying to pin down. Detailed feedback of when you have an issue would help me (and you if it's something I can pin down to client side) You can PM or email me info. I may not respond directly but I will look into it.

[Dusty]

Site is loading very fast for me now.

I was just reading and responding to current threads.

Still getting this message at the bottom of the screen "done, but with errors on page"

My problems were around 10pm-11pm central time.

There was a slight delay in pages opening. Once the page appeared, the green bar at the bottom of the screen would stop around the 1/2 way point. Yet even though it did not show a page completely loaded I was still able to post in any given thread.

I'm stupid. How do I find out what browser I am using? I know it is not firefox because you have to physically apply that one.

[Len]

There was a slight delay in pages opening. Once the page appeared, the green bar at the bottom of the screen would stop around the 1/2 way point. Yet even though it did not show a page completely loaded I was still able to post in any given thread.
.

This indicates that part of the page did not load, usually a script (like java) or an ad. This should not happen with us yet as all ads are served from our server, except some of the boardroom ads.


I'm stupid. How do I find out what browser I am using? I know it is not firefox because you have to physically apply that one.

.
Whatever the browser, click Help - About. It will give you the program and version number.


One option, check to see that your Java is up to date.
http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
or
http://www.java.com/en/download/index.jsp

[y.painting]

Never had loading problems on here :) Running latest FF on mac.

[Eieio]

I say try loading up ie upgrades, java upgrades and switching to firefox..

Our version of Vbulletin is newer than most of the other sites..

[neolitic]

FF 3.5.5 here, and sometimes
(I'll try to keep a log) it is slow loading
and yesterday...all day....I was getting
a lot of time outs, here only.
(Latest Java up dates installed too.)

[uwing]

I run FF, that has been my browser of choice for many years. It's running slow now, But I think I have some cleaning up to do on my CPU. I have had experiences load time, when i go to the site or clicks new post on my phone and on the cpu. I just chalk it up as someone is doing maintenance. Which I think it would be cool if you were to have a thread that notifies, so we know the dam site hasn't been taking over by Nazis

[JasonW]

I run FF and don't have any issues. I clean up my CPU on a regular basis, run a Registry clean up, and Spy-wear at least once a week. I had lots of problems with speed and got lots of error messages before I started doing these things.

[Eieio]

Its free and works wonders..

http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/

[uwing]

Its free and works wonders..

http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/

WTF does this mean http://digilander.libero.it/le.faccine/faccinea/computer/00330018.gif

[Eieio]

WTF does this mean http://digilander.libero.it/le.faccine/faccinea/computer/00330018.gif


That we are accessing your Credit card info. Don't worry about it, its normal

[Bender]

Check your upload/download speed here.
http://www.speedtest.net/

I'm downloading at 2.6Mb/s
and uploading at.45Mb/s

[Eieio]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/643574863.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Bender]

Nice!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/643591090.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Little Dan and his X-box:mad:

[uwing]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/643592705.png

[naptownCr]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/643624742.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Eieio]

Nice!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/643591090.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Little Dan and his X-box:mad:


I would commit suicide at those speeds

[naptownCr]

I would commit suicide at those speeds

Looks like someone is sucking all the bandwidth.
Qwest is fiber optic if I remember

[Bender]

I used to play blitz chess an yahoo. When things were moving we could crank out 50 or 55 moves each, in a one minute game!

[uwing]

http://www.pingtest.net/result/5119935.png

[JasonW]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/643701997.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[JasonW]

Nice!

http://www.speedtest.net/result/643591090.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Little Dan and his X-box:mad:

Tell your kids to get off the other phone line and try again...

[uwing]

Yup! Xbox, wi, ps3, 4 cpu's always on the internt at my pad, tv, we have verizon FIOS.

[Len]

http://www.pingtest.net/result/5119935.png

This is a better test about connection issues.

PingTest.net will give you a better idea of the quality of your connection and if you are having problems.

If your packet loss is high or your ping time is high it would be something to look into fixing.

[daArch]

being a participant on a few forums, I notice slow downs periodically on all of them

It appears to have nothing to do with browser (I use Opera), vBulletin, or the forum settings. I have accounted to the server's ability to handle the traffic.

As a forum gets busy and grows traffic, many owners have found a need to switch to more robust servers.


And then there's the issue of your ISP handling local traffic. Hey, it's saturday nite. Date nite. IM's, facebook, and porno downloads are sucking up bandwidth.

[Bodger]

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt10/dingoff/pingtest.png

I have no problems anywhere else on other forums, E-Bay, GlockTalk, CalGuns, etc.

Only RC runs slow and locks up for me on any regular basis.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt10/dingoff/speed.png


http://www.speedtest.net/result/643765279.png

[WarriorWithWood]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/643771496.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.pingtest.net/result/5128046.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

I have issues at times on this site too, but nothing as bad as described. I just get the occasional hang.

[WarriorWithWood]

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt10/dingoff/pingtest.png

I have no problems anywhere else on other forums, E-Bay, GlockTalk, CalGuns, etc.

Only RC runs slow and locks up for me on any regular basis.


http://www.speedtest.net/result/643765279.png

Holy crap, that's close to dial up speed.

[Bodger]

Holy crap, that's close to dial up speed.

Well....sheeeit.

What can I do?

Weird that every other site works fine, no long waits, Photobucket is pretty fast.

[Bender]

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt10/dingoff/pingtest.png

I have no problems anywhere else on other forums, E-Bay, GlockTalk, CalGuns, etc.

Only RC runs slow and locks up for me on any regular basis.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt10/dingoff/speed.png


http://www.speedtest.net/result/643765279.png
If I was running that slow I'd kill Rory!

[Bodger]

I switched to Mozilla and have absolutely no problems with RC now.

I have a lousy connection speed most days, however. YouTube is starting to take forever, starting and stopping. I guess I gotta get a better provider. I have SBC DSL right now. Connection speed is sucking big time.

[bikerboy]

My problems are navigating from one page to the next. Time of day is not important because it has been a consistant problem. After a couple of minutes of being on the site, navigation slows down. Taking several minutes (sometimes timing out) before moving to the next page.

Whether in the same thread, pulling up new posts, navigating to a new thread, or even opening mail it has been extremely slow. I'll have several windows open, and normally 2 "boards" open. This site is the only one with the problem. Am running IE 8. Have 3 computers, and the problem is the same on all three.

Having just RC open does not make a difference.

[bikerboy]

It took over 2 minutes from the time I hit the "post quick reply" button until the above post loaded.

[framer55]

Updating to new server, according to Rory with 2 blingabytes of storage!!:grin:

[TooledUp]

It can be affected by what other sites are hosted on the same server and what kind of processes they're using. If they're using a lot of cgi (perl) based programs then that takes up a lot of cpu load and will slow down the other sites on the same server. A lot of cron jobs running at the same time can also slow it down.

A dedicated server is the best way to go but they ain't that cheap. If it's affecting people at a certain time of day then it may well be down to cron jobs or another site on the same server that takes a heavy load of traffic at a certain time of day.

[Bodger]

I'm getting logged out now everytime I leave the site, or when a certain amount of time has elapsed.

And the "remember me" feature no longer works. I gotta type in password and user every friggin time.

WTF??

[bikerboy]

Just in case anybody cares:

1. Tries to navigate fron the "new posts" page to another page. 8 minutes later, nothing.

2.Tried to do it by opening another page in a new tab got "interenet explorer cannot open this page" message.

3.Hit my home page button, and went right to my default home page. Navigated from there to other pages, not a problem.

4.Go to get back from "my favorites", nothing.

5. Close the browser and open a new one, and can go back to Remodel Crazy.

It seems like the RC site lets me navigate a certain amout before it just stops. This has been happening for a couple of week. And it is only on this site. Todays problem happened at 9:34 am Saturday the 2nd.

Just in case you need the info.

[Eieio]

Thanks BB and your using internet explorer as your browser right?

[TooledUp]

Just in case anybody cares:

1. Tries to navigate fron the "new posts" page to another page. 8 minutes later, nothing.

2.Tried to do it by opening another page in a new tab got "interenet explorer cannot open this page" message.

3.Hit my home page button, and went right to my default home page. Navigated from there to other pages, not a problem.

4.Go to get back from "my favorites", nothing.

5. Close the browser and open a new one, and can go back to Remodel Crazy.

It seems like the RC site lets me navigate a certain amout before it just stops. This has been happening for a couple of week. And it is only on this site. Todays problem happened at 9:34 am Saturday the 2nd.

Just in case you need the info.

IE can sometimes do that when your cache starts getting big. Have you tried emptying your temp internet files?

[bikerboy]

Yes I use IE and yes I clean it often. Actually only have the problem here.

[Bodger]

IE jsut got to the point for me that this site would not work well at all, and in general internet was slow.

Went with Firefox and it all cleared up EXCEPT that every time I go to another site and then come back to RC, I have to log in again. PITA

[SLS-Construction]

IE jsut got to the point for me that this site would not work well at all, and in general internet was slow.

Went with Firefox and it all cleared up EXCEPT that every time I go to another site and then come back to RC, I have to log in again. PITA

Check the box that says Remember Me or if you do & that still doesn't work - allow cookies to be stored for this site

[bikerboy]

It's a shame to have to switch back and forth from the most popular browser in the world (IE) to something else just so you can surf a site.

For those of you with business websites. Would you be happy having your customers jump through those hoops?

[RCP]

Just to add, I was having problems with slowness (only this site) on Firefox while Safari was fine on my old laptop (mac). My new one Safari great, but Google Chrome refreshes the page constantly and plays havoc with chat.
I have not installed FF yet.

[Leo G]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/670043268.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.pingtest.net/result/6852229.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

[TooledUp]

It's a shame to have to switch back and forth from the most popular browser in the world (IE) to something else just so you can surf a site.

For those of you with business websites. Would you be happy having your customers jump through those hoops?

Try going to tools/settings/internet options. Click on the privacy tab and then advanced. Tick the override automatic cookie handling and then tick always allow session cookies.

Back to the advanced tab - Now click the sites button and type in this web site address and click always allow.

Restart IE and see if that works.

[RCP]

http://www.speedtest.net/result/670045813.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.pingtest.net/result/6852426.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

[Blue]

If you have IE here is what you do.

1. Make a tab with RC as a favorite.
2. Put your IE icon in the same area that the tab is (on desktop)
3. Close RC, click IE icon, click RC tab.

I can do all that in about 7 seconds and it refreshes all. I have gotten to the point of just doing this every 10 minutes or so when Im in here. If you forget to do it look down at your who's online. If it reads 0 then you need to refresh by killing the site. That or all your friends are sleeping.

FF goesnt work good, it doesnt have tabs and is super hard to navigate through all your favs.

[TooledUp]

Actaully, the chat feature could have a lot to do with the slowness of the site. Chats put a heavy load on the bandwidth and with this being on a hosted server then it could very well be the source of the problem with speed.

Maybe the admin could disable it for a day or so to see if it makes any difference..?

[Leo G]

Well that's a pain in the butt. I just log on and everything works fine.

[Leo G]

Chat is rarely used.

[TooledUp]

FF goesnt work good, it doesnt have tabs and is super hard to navigate through all your favs.


FF had tabs years before IE. The favs are almost identically laid out as IE. You didn't download the version you had from one of those dodgy sites by any chance? :grin:

[TooledUp]

Chat is rarely used.

What about the personal chat feature from the 'who's online' bit?

[Blue]

FF had tabs years before IE. The favs are almost identically laid out as IE. You didn't download the version you had from one of those dodgy sites by any chance? :grin:

No none of that on my copy. I think the bars are a google toolbar addon.

And the prob is not the chat it is the IM feature. Thats when my probs started anyway but now that I have the cure its not that inconvenient.

[shanekw1]

I got a busy screen once. Only problem ever.

I stay logged in all day, active or not.

No difference since the chat features came in.

FF 3.0.16

[Len]

For those using IE, you can try Disabling script debugging.
http://www.sureshotsoftware.com/articles/scripterrors.html


Some things to look for.
Any installed add-ons or toolbars. (disable them and try)

Norton Anti-virus (or internet security) This program is known to cause issues. (try disabling temporarily to test)

Try another browser, like Firefox (http://www.remodelcrazy.com/forum/www.mozilla.com/firefox/), Chrome (http://www.remodelcrazy.com/forum/www.google.com/chrome), Opera (http://www.remodelcrazy.com/forum/www.opera.com/) or Flock (http://flock.com/) (based on Firefox).

Make sure your PC has current security patches, and make sure Java (http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp) and Flash (http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/) are current as well.

[nEighter]

Len it may just be the web in general. I am experiencing some seriously funky stuff.

[TooledUp]

Press and hold Alt and F4 - Usually does the trick :)

[nEighter]

/\ oh yeah!

[Eieio]

The updating and maintenance of the site is an on going issue..

When a problem is posted Len has to see what is causing the problem and if it is on our end, the software or the server..

A lot of the problems you experience on the site are script errors..

Firefox un like most browsers will fix or repair the script errors and you will never know they exist..

IE does not do that.. I do not run IE, not sure if Len does so a lot of times I do no see the errors you guys are experiencing unless you mention them..

A lot of time it is the software and/or your computer and settings and not the server or anything we can do to fix it..

The software company releases patches that upgrade and fix problems as they are reported to them

Which means sometimes there is not an immediate fix to the errors that you get, we have to wait for someone else to fix them for us.

If you look to the bottom of the screen it shows the software version we are running. They release a patch we update it and the software version you see changes..

A few of the other forums chose to stay with the older versions to avoid these headaches but they do not allow for a very visually appealing site our the addons that we run..

So you either have a older Plain Jane site or a new one that allows for a few more features and modifications..

The software company is on version 4.0 and reading the feedback they still have a way to go to make it stable..

[Eieio]

The chat software is only IE and Firefox compatible. It may work in others but it only specifies these two.

I guess we can try to disable it for a few days and see if it helps..

I doubt that it will.. We have upgraded to the new server and have not seen anything that would indicate that the server is the problem.. Even though I am nowhere as capable as Len to make that a true statement :rolleyes3:


In 4 months we have updated, upgraded everything we can to make the forum run as smoothly as possible and will continue to do so..

This is why we always want the feed back to keep tweaking stuff as needed.

[Eieio]

Any one having issues with the forum right now??

[WarriorWithWood]

I'm getting "the server is busy" on and off for the last half hour.

[shanekw1]

Yep, busy.

[Eieio]

Yes we keep getting spikes we are working on it. thanks guys

[Eieio]

anyone still having problems with the forum?????????

[WarriorWithWood]

all good here. I like the fact that the donate frame pops up first now too. I kept trying to click the new posts button and wound up clicking the logout. :(

[nEighter]

chat feature is all over the place, get kicked out, it is slow or doesn't post when I hit enter.. stuff like that

[RCP]

Way slow for me, only this site.
Safari and Chrome
In Chrome, at the bottom of window it says "resolving host"

And the sponser section is blank, I see the "support rc" window

[Len]

Way slow for me, only this site.
Safari and Chrome
In Chrome, at the bottom of window it says "resolving host"

And the sponser section is blank, I see the "support rc" window

When you see resolving host (http://www.google.com/search?q=resolving+host+slow&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a), that is an issue on your end. Somewhere between you and your ISP is slow to lookup the domain.
(chorme link (http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=1bb0e9b089013d95&hl=en))

You may want to go through your settings, if you are have issues checking them will likely speed up many sites for you.

May want to start by using Google DNS (http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/).

[RCP]

Thanks Len, going to have to look into this, been slow since Sat am. Only on this site, I can click on a post, go to another tab or browser, visit another site/forum/post, no problem then come back 3 minutes later and still loading.
I am on a Mac, those instructions were for PC.

Using Safari on my old laptop it is fine?!
Cleared my cookies and cache, a mystery!?