Why...

[scctrim]

am I now having to scroll L to R to see the entire page? Or have I always had to do this, someone change something?

[Leo G]

Are there pictures in the thread. That will cause you to need to scroll if they are big enough.

[scctrim]

Its everywhere...including the mainpage. scren rez = 1024x768

[JasonW]

It looks normal to me (no scrolling L - R)

What browser are you using? I have FF.

[J F]

I've got the same problem, regardless of pics or not. I'm on the 4:3 monitors and this is the only site that I frequent out of about 8-10 that I have to scroll side to side for each and every sentence.

Unless it's a short sentence.

I still haven't been able to figure out why this is the only site that I can't get to work on my monitors...very aggravating at times :smash:, it gets tiring going left-right-left-right-left-right...... (and I really like my dual monitor set-up, works great for everything else I do, so I won't be getting 2 new monitors any time soon).

J

[J F]

This is what my screen looks like on RC:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv135/Jay123_bucket/RemCrazy/ef6896b8.png

[J F]

Here's CT

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv135/Jay123_bucket/RemCrazy/7244bd23.png

[TooledUp]

It's down to bad coding in the forum software or the addon used for the 'support rc' afaics. Without loading the source and css into an html editor, it looks like the new 'support rc' addition table size is conflicting with the main layout table size.

width="100% for the main table and width="175" for the 'support us' table. Like I said, there's probably a couple of other variables in there but I think that's the root of it.

Increasing your screen resolution in your display settings should (hopefully) cure it. Mine's set at 1400 x 900 pixels and don't have any problems. It's not an ideal situation though because some people aren't comfortable with a high resolution.

[J F]

jlc:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv135/Jay123_bucket/RemCrazy/6d06fc8c.png

chieftalk:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv135/Jay123_bucket/RemCrazy/1ca84dd4.png

woodweb:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv135/Jay123_bucket/RemCrazy/3df3f72e.png


Here's RC's text size if I want to see it without scrolling:

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv135/Jay123_bucket/RemCrazy/03711e65.png

Then, of course, it's too small to read....

I've tried playing around with all the settings within firefox, and like I said, I can change text sizes within other sites without the actual window of the forum expanding beyond the screen (within reason of course), but just have not been able to figure out if it's possible on this site.

Also, the way my desk is set up, I'm about 36" from my monitors.

Len, if you happen to read this, is this site set-up only for wide-screen format, and are you able to change text sizes without the whole window expanding?

sorry for the hi-jack sc, but it may help you to know what I've been trying without success.

J

[TooledUp]

Just thinking here (admin), are you using the latest version (4) vBulletin? I was reading there's 100's of errors thrown up on html validators with that version...

[TooledUp]

jlc:


I've tried playing around with all the settings within firefox, and like I said, I can change text sizes within other sites without the actual window of the forum expanding beyond the screen (within reason of course), but just have not been able to figure out if it's possible on this site.



Try the screen resolution thing and then increase the text size within FF.

[WarriorWithWood]

I'm going to guess it's a coding issue. I'm running 1680x1050 and it all fits nicely.

[J F]

I haven't tried to down-grade my screen resolution, so thanks for the idea (although that would be a pain to have to change it just for this site each time I bounce back here).

Just not sure why this is the only site that the left-right scroll happens at current settings :smash:

[scctrim]

reset my rez to 1280x768 and no more scrolling. Enlarged the text in FF...odd resolution

[TooledUp]

vBulletin are aware of the buggy code. It looks as though the 'support rc' section that's been added is the cause of this problem though. A fixed-width table alongside a 100% width table isn't working.

If the admin knows how to edit the code and which files then changing the main table width to say 80% and the addition table width to 20% (maybe a bit of playing there) should cure it.

[J F]

I took my resolution from 1280x1024 to 1152x864 (4:3 monitors) on one monitor and the text is still not big enough when it fits on the screen without scrolling...and it's fuzzy too.

My normal res. is 1280x1024 on both monitors.

Thanks for the idea though, ya never know.

J

[Eieio]

Len told me about this last night I forgot to post an update..

Doing my best interpretation here..

We added ads and stuff to the right, He looked at the settings that were the most commonly used of the people that view the site so that not to many people would be affected..

He assumed we may have a few with issues and will adjust it.. He did it late last night. He will have to tinker with it some more later again...

[Len]

Here is what is happening.
For simplicity I'll say basically everything is the same.

The only ones having an issue are the ones with the Font size increased.

When you increase the font size, it does just that. Everywhere.

Why it's different for you today.
The menu at the top narrowed, because of the addition of the right column.
When you increase the font, the words get bigger in the menu, running out of room and increasing it's size, which flows to the right. Everything below the menu is in the same space, when it if forced to the right, everything below it flows to fill that space also.

I'll look into finding a solution for those wanting a larger font size.

[TooledUp]

I'll look into finding a solution for those wanting a larger font size.

Abolishing the fixed width to percentages should do it

If the admin knows how to edit the code and which files then changing the main table width to say 80% and the addition table width to 20% (maybe a bit of playing there) should cure it.

[Len]

Abolishing the fixed width to percentages should do it


It's not a fixed width, it's a fluid layout, increase and decrease the size of your browser and you will see it expand in width as your browser window does.

[Eieio]

It's not a fixed width, it's a fluid layout, increase and decrease the size of your browser and you will see it expand in width as your browser window does.


So I need to take my thanks back from him?

[TooledUp]

It's not a fixed width, it's a fluid layout, increase and decrease the size of your browser and you will see it expand in width as your browser window does.


The table that the advertising is nested inside is:

table class="tborder donate" border="0" width="175"

The main content table is set to 100%, therefore causing the overlap at certain resolutions. The text enlargement should be okay up until a certain point as it should wrap. Having said that, text enlargement will inevitably start an overlap at some point on certain resolutions/monitor sizes because of image size settings etc...

If you reduce the main content tables to less than 100% and fill in the donate table with the rest (taking it up to 100%) then it should theoretically fix it.

If it's a third party addon then you could always ask the author to fix the bug :)

[TooledUp]

So I need to take my thanks back from him?

Wars have been started over less :grin:

[Blue]

I am assuming its all repaired as I came late to the party. Everything is fine on my screen in IE except for the part that is asking me for money. You can delete that box.

[TooledUp]

The table that the advertising is nested inside is:

table class="tborder donate" border="0" width="175"




Actually, I pasted the wrong code in there - It's this bit that sets the table width...

table width="175" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="left" class="tcat-rounded"

[TooledUp]

... and this

table class="rt-column-2" width="175" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="left

It'll be easier to look through the scripts for the addon lol

[Eieio]

is this going to turn into battle of the NERDS??

[ArmchairDIY]

is this going to turn into battle of the NERDS??

If you can't fix it with a hammer it must be a coding error....lol

[TooledUp]

is this going to turn into battle of the NERDS??

Nope - Len can have it, he's got the scripts and I'm guessing :surrender:

:grin:

[TooledUp]

Len, the addon seems to be wrongly placed only on the message pages. The main forum, and each forum index look okay from what I can see. Check the 'welcome <username>' at the top of the page. It's okay until you open up a thread/post and then it's squashed over to the left.

[Len]

Actually, I pasted the wrong code in there - It's this bit that sets the table width...

table width="175" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" align="left" class="tcat-rounded"


Thanks for the help but you are not seeing the whole picture and misunderstanding how 100% width works.


The forum is fluid. Meaning the outer most element (a table in this case) will stretch to fill the browser on wider resolutions.

This is achieved by setting the outer most element to 100%.
100% doesn't mean 100% width, it means 100% of the available space.

In the case of an outer wrapper, that is the full width of a browser window.

Inside this outer wrapper we have other tables of various sizes.
The two you are looking at are side by side. One is fixed, at 175px the other is fluid at 100% (whatever is leftover after the 175px fills it's space).

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The login box aligning itself with the main content on thread pages is a bug, and is different in each browser.
I'm looking into what is causing it, everything functions, so it's just an aesthetic issue.

[TooledUp]

The forum is fluid. Meaning the outer most element (a table in this case) will stretch to fill the browser on wider resolutions.

This is achieved by setting the outer most element to 100%.
100% doesn't mean 100% width, it means 100% of the available space.

Yes I can see that. This is where I didn't spot the 'bug' in the addon alignment until I noticed the difference on the message pages as opposed to the others.




The login box aligning itself with the main content on thread pages is a bug, and is different in each browser.
I'm looking into what is causing it, everything functions, so it's just an aesthetic issue.

Without having the index templates, and a stab in the dark, it may just be the difference between where the code is inserted on the 'normal' index's compared to the problem page index. Or you could create a column beside the messages and insert it in there. I know how much of a pain pages that are created on the fly can be - My heart goes out to you :)