Fun cabinet

[Leo G]

Read that as pain in the ass cabinet. I am making a boat shaped two door lazy Sue cabinet. Crazy angles and different thickness stock mitering into each other. Oh..so fun


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Figured out the angles on the CAD. And did some test pcs and they seem to fit rather nicely. We'll see what happens when I start cutting into the real pcs. The fun part should be the gluing up of the cabinet. I can't wait for that.

[Winchester]

The fun part should be the gluing up of the cabinet. I can't wait for that.

We will require pics of this:laugh3:

Why different thickness of stock anyway?

[Leo G]

Plywood is 23/32" and my faceframe and door stock is 13/16". Not much of a difference but it does change the angle. Plus the plywood has a 1/4" dado which effectively makes it 1/2" thick. But I fixed that by having the plywood go past the apex of the angle.

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The yellow is the plywood base, the green is the plywood and the blue solid wood.

[Derek Stevens]

I don't see blue...oh, now I do.. never mind.. I shouldn't slouch in my chair

[WarnerConstInc.]

Dominos Leo.

[Leo G]

Not really sure I can use dominos or biscuits. Both rely on an equal miter as a reference point, which I do not have. I think I will just saturate the joint with glue and use packing tape as clamps. Won't know until I try a few things.

[neolitic]

Not really sure I can use dominos or biscuits. Both rely on an equal miter as a reference point, which I do not have. I think I will just saturate the joint with glue and use packing tape as clamps. Won't know until I try a few things.

Maybe splines?

[Leo G]

Just tried some biscuits and it did what I figured, not line up. Packing tape it is. Can't use a spline because the plywood sides are glued to the bottom now.

[Leo G]

Pretty close to finishing up this cabinet. Took a bunch of the day to get it glued up. I had to fit the sides, then glue them up. Put in some stretchers, cut the first angle on both face frames, double check the true working angle instead of the CAD theoretical angle. Most of the angles were within 1/2 degree and some were right on. Cut the second angle on both FF's.

I made a jig to glue the angles together and it worked real well for the first FF. But the second didn't like the jig. After a few minutes with the glue on I decided that it wasn't going to work and I pulled it off before the glue set up. So I cleaned up the glue by scraping it with a razor blade.

So I played around with a few other options and found one that worked and glued it up. While I was waiting for things to dry on each successive glue up I was in the spray room coating the other cherry cabinets I had made.

The last pc was the front with an angle on both sides. I cut the angles and found that the dado needed to be a bit deeper. So I cut it a bit deeper and got it fit nice. The board had a slight bow in it and I was able to use that to my advantage. Put the pc in the dado and put a clamp on it. Then put a couple of clamps on the top. The bow was towards the inside of the cabinet so I put a clamp across each FF to squeeze them and got some perfect joints.

Here are a few shots:

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[neolitic]

Better thee than.....
i get a knot in my stomach
just thinking about that glue up.

[Leo G]

Ya, it was a pain. 3 of the miter joints went well and the forth was extra fun. I'm sure I made no money on this cabinet.



Good for me.:furious::furious:

[PA Woodbutcher]

Better thee than.....
i get a knot in my stomach
just thinking about that glue up.

Yeah, right. One of those I think about how I want to position my clamps and how I want the assembly to go for half the day before tackling it.

[Leo G]

Even the toekick was fun (read: PITA). Much simpler to fabricate then the cabinet. Made a simple jig to glue it up. Just a board the length of the toekick and a couple of 90º ends to trap it in. I put 4 clamps on the top and it basically held itself together because I was able to use biscuits in it.

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[mikea]

Even the grain lines up,your just as anal as me .

I like building that kinda stuff too but I don't use no computer .

Is this unit part of some more cabinets or should I go back and read this thread ? :idea:

[Leo G]

It was made from one pc of plywood and after I did all the cuts I noticed that a lot of the grains could be lined up. So I marked the joints as matched and glued it up that way. I didn't really try to do it that way, but it looks cool that I did. You will hardly ever see it. Maybe cralling on the floor in the kitchen. I set my toekicks back rar enough so they are difficult to see.

End of the run peninsula
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[kornerking]

Hey Leo, Do you use "air nails" to hang that suspended cabinet?

Looks great!!

[Leo G]

I've been using the anti-grav holders on my latest installs.....

[mmike032]

looks good.
where can I get some of those anti gravity holders.
must be special order

[nEighter]

I've been using the anti-grav holders on my latest installs.....

mnis 2 points for using technology not yet invented...

looks good.
where can I get some of those anti gravity holders.
must be special order

no..... the flux capacitor gave way dong 86 mile per hour... you will have to wait for these new fangled technologies..

:censored: LEO I thought you would keep them under wraps per our agreement... :smash::smash:

[Leo G]

Don't even try to claim any of this. Just because you tried to blackmail me about this fantastic product I invented doesn't mean I'm gonna let you keep half the money.

[kornerking]

mnis 2 points for using technology not yet invented...



no..... the flux capacitor gave way dong 86 mile per hour... you will have to wait for these new fangled technologies..

:censored: LEO I thought you would keep them under wraps per our agreement... :smash::smash:

They are all over Craigslist. Look them up under BS.:grin:

[Leo G]

My patent still has 16 years left ...I'll sue :laugh4:

[kornerking]

I don't blame you. It's a great concept. You can see by the picture they work great. It should sell well on woodweb. GET TO WORK LEO.