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JasonW
January 30th, 2010, 10:54 AM
Gary Katz has a new tutorial and video on designing and making a pediment for Greek Revival style applications.

http://www.garymkatz.com/TrimTechniques/GreekRevivalTrim.html

It gives some good history on the design as well. Thought I'd share the link here.:2thumbsup:

Leo G
January 30th, 2010, 07:58 PM
Wow. Some sloppy work going on there. I hope he was just doing it wham bam thank you ma'am for the video. Large gaps on the roof of the pediment because of pre-assembly where it joined the backer. I guess it doesn't matter to much as the molding covers it. But not up to my standards.

When he was cutting the pcs he missed the cut line several times even using the laser.

And what's with the light showing through the weatherstripping on the door :laugh4:

I did like how he used the edge of the miter saw fence as an alignment for measuring. That was cool.

WarnerConstInc.
January 30th, 2010, 10:14 PM
Something seems familiar, what are those tools he was using?

Leo-that's why you don't have a cabinet builder do your head pediments, they would never get done!!

Leo G
January 30th, 2010, 10:21 PM
I've built a lot of them myself and they were good all the way around and it didn't cost an arm and a leg to do. Shouldn't see those types of gaps. I wanted to see him complete it to see what the final look was. Then I could have done a fair critique. If the final look is good then the backer is irrelevant. Throw a bit of caulk in there and stick it out on the house.

mmike032
February 22nd, 2010, 10:41 AM
Wow. Some sloppy work going on there. I hope he was just doing it wham bam thank you ma'am for the video. Large gaps on the roof of the pediment because of pre-assembly where it joined the backer. I guess it doesn't matter to much as the molding covers it. But not up to my standards.

When he was cutting the pcs he missed the cut line several times even using the laser.

And what's with the light showing through the weatherstripping on the door :laugh4:

I did like how he used the edge of the miter saw fence as an alignment for measuring. That was cool.
he wasnt building a piano Leo:rolleyes3:

mmike032
February 22nd, 2010, 10:42 AM
anyone got a link to that spray glue he uses for the small pieces?
I want some of it.

Leo G
February 22nd, 2010, 12:04 PM
http://www.woodcraft.com/Catalog/ProductPage.aspx?prodid=25381

JasonW
February 22nd, 2010, 05:37 PM
anyone got a link to that spray glue he uses for the small pieces?
I want some of it.

I would never use that stuff outside. The problem I see with it is that you only use a small dab of the gel in the center of the piece you're gluing. That means all the end grain around it isn't getting sealed and can constantly wick moisture.

I've always used tight bond 2 or 3. I make sure that each end that I'm glueing is covered 100% with the glue and then put them together. This assures me that even IF that glue joint pops over time the end grain is sealed and the wood lasts much longer.

Leo G
February 22nd, 2010, 06:38 PM
Nothing saying you can't spread it around, but it is costly to use it that way.

WarriorWithWood
February 22nd, 2010, 07:39 PM
So??? How was your first day back Jason?

mmike032
February 23rd, 2010, 03:29 PM
I would never use that stuff outside. The problem I see with it is that you only use a small dab of the gel in the center of the piece you're gluing. That means all the end grain around it isn't getting sealed and can constantly wick moisture.

I've always used tight bond 2 or 3. I make sure that each end that I'm glueing is covered 100% with the glue and then put them together. This assures me that even IF that glue joint pops over time the end grain is sealed and the wood lasts much longer.

I was thinking mostly using it for trim on mantles.
sometimes I build them with a block in the middle for the crown to wrap around to give it a stepped out look. wouldnt have to worry about splitting the small pieces when pinnailing together.
I always cut a few extras when dealing with tiny pieces to save a trip or 2 to the saw when a piece splits.

orson
February 23rd, 2010, 04:27 PM
WindsorOne makes awesome trim, used in a bathroom recently.

They're an FSC certified mill too.

tomstruble
February 23rd, 2010, 09:33 PM
i glue myself to the trim when i use that stuff:grin: