Leo G
February 18th, 2010, 10:34 PM
This is about the Cherry kitchen I am installing. I am at the end of the job, last couple of cabinets/shelves and then the crown. Because the ceilings are so far out we decided to keep the crown away from the ceiling.
So I am installing the small corner cabinet next to the refrigerator cabinet. I get it leveled and scribed in. I get the top scribed in. Then I put the corner shelf on top. I put it up against the refer and the other side is a 1/2" from the wall. No way to twist the cabinet to make it comply. So I take the refrigerator cabinet that is flat against the wall and pull the left side out about 1/2". This fixes everything except for the vertical wow in the wall. It'll have to do. Not my wall.
Then we go to case the 6" x 7" beam that goes across the kitchen, dividing the kitchen from the dining area. I have some 1/4" Cherry that have some solid glued on to form a dado and cove. This will form a shadow box. Put up the plywood and the ceiling has a 1/2" smile in it. We just deal with it.
The the next thing is another corner cabinet to go up against an upper cab and the wall. I already know this wall is out about 3/8" over the 40" upper, so I expect there to be a tapered gap. Put it up and low and behold, there it is. Don't want to put it flush to the wall because you will see the edge of the cabinet front taper to front of the corner shelf. My helper argues with me and wants me to modify the cabinet. BS, I am sick of this house and it's whacked out walls, it is a 1950's house, walls should be reasonable. I win, the tapered gap stays.
So all the cabs and the beam are up, time for the crown. Set up the indexed 45º blocks on the cabinet And go to put up the first pc of crown. It is a cabinet to the right of the window and will reach over to the cabinet on the left of the window. I forgot the valance (whoops) so it will be installed later. I notice that the crown is falling naturally about 1/2" in front of the other cabinet. I also remember that this cabinet (right of the window) was on a big hump in the wall. I had scribes on both sides and they weren't quite enough to get a constant contact and keep the cabinet plumb. So this hump in the wall screwed up the alignment in the crown. We couldn't force it to comply.
So I decide to pull the right side of the cabinet from the wall to correct the error. Pull out the two right screws and the cabinet won't budge. Loosen the two left screws and the cabinet won't budge. Then it dawns on me. We put a few screws in through the cherry plywood on the beam into the cabinet. There is no option, take the beam surround off. At this point it wasn't bad. 3 screws and the polyurethane construction adhesive hadn't set up yet. So we remove the screws and the cabinet moves easily. Shim it back up and put the screws back in through the beam plywood and the back of the cabinet. The crown falls in place easily.
The rest of the crown in the kitchen goes pretty smooth. But I am pretty pissed. I had to move two cabinets to get this stuff to work right. Things that I should be able to take for granted, that the walls are pretty straight and pretty plumb. Neither which occurred here.
Now the only issue I can see is that because of the floor ceiling relationship the reveal of the crown to the ceiling varies substantially. at it's closest it is 1/2" and at its furthers it is about 1 1/2" If I tried to put the crown up to the ceiling this would have been even more of a nightmare. So many compound angles, I would have gone insane.
So, how was your day?:smash:
So I am installing the small corner cabinet next to the refrigerator cabinet. I get it leveled and scribed in. I get the top scribed in. Then I put the corner shelf on top. I put it up against the refer and the other side is a 1/2" from the wall. No way to twist the cabinet to make it comply. So I take the refrigerator cabinet that is flat against the wall and pull the left side out about 1/2". This fixes everything except for the vertical wow in the wall. It'll have to do. Not my wall.
Then we go to case the 6" x 7" beam that goes across the kitchen, dividing the kitchen from the dining area. I have some 1/4" Cherry that have some solid glued on to form a dado and cove. This will form a shadow box. Put up the plywood and the ceiling has a 1/2" smile in it. We just deal with it.
The the next thing is another corner cabinet to go up against an upper cab and the wall. I already know this wall is out about 3/8" over the 40" upper, so I expect there to be a tapered gap. Put it up and low and behold, there it is. Don't want to put it flush to the wall because you will see the edge of the cabinet front taper to front of the corner shelf. My helper argues with me and wants me to modify the cabinet. BS, I am sick of this house and it's whacked out walls, it is a 1950's house, walls should be reasonable. I win, the tapered gap stays.
So all the cabs and the beam are up, time for the crown. Set up the indexed 45º blocks on the cabinet And go to put up the first pc of crown. It is a cabinet to the right of the window and will reach over to the cabinet on the left of the window. I forgot the valance (whoops) so it will be installed later. I notice that the crown is falling naturally about 1/2" in front of the other cabinet. I also remember that this cabinet (right of the window) was on a big hump in the wall. I had scribes on both sides and they weren't quite enough to get a constant contact and keep the cabinet plumb. So this hump in the wall screwed up the alignment in the crown. We couldn't force it to comply.
So I decide to pull the right side of the cabinet from the wall to correct the error. Pull out the two right screws and the cabinet won't budge. Loosen the two left screws and the cabinet won't budge. Then it dawns on me. We put a few screws in through the cherry plywood on the beam into the cabinet. There is no option, take the beam surround off. At this point it wasn't bad. 3 screws and the polyurethane construction adhesive hadn't set up yet. So we remove the screws and the cabinet moves easily. Shim it back up and put the screws back in through the beam plywood and the back of the cabinet. The crown falls in place easily.
The rest of the crown in the kitchen goes pretty smooth. But I am pretty pissed. I had to move two cabinets to get this stuff to work right. Things that I should be able to take for granted, that the walls are pretty straight and pretty plumb. Neither which occurred here.
Now the only issue I can see is that because of the floor ceiling relationship the reveal of the crown to the ceiling varies substantially. at it's closest it is 1/2" and at its furthers it is about 1 1/2" If I tried to put the crown up to the ceiling this would have been even more of a nightmare. So many compound angles, I would have gone insane.
So, how was your day?:smash: