The RRP Rule and Property Owners

[ChrWright]

This is hysterical:

http://wesleyanargus.com/2010/02/26/don%E2%80%99t-eat-the-paint-contract-not-a-cause-for-concern/

Don’t Eat the Paint - Contract Not a Cause for Concern

While the recent appearance of a Lead Paint Notice on the Room Selection website may have caused some anxiety among students living in older housing units, it’s no need for concern, according to Director of Residential Life (ResLife) Fran Koerting.

“We kid around with students that ‘As long as you don’t lick the walls, you’re okay,” she said.

[ChrWright]

http://www.multifamilyinsiders.com/home/multifamily-blogs/No-Immunity-to-Change-New-RRP-Rule-Takes-Effect-this-April.html

http://www.iremfirst.org/if/whatsHappening/EPA%20RRP%20Rule

[Silvertree]

I'm loving these links Chris.

[ChrWright]

http://www.middletownpress.com/articles/2010/03/05/news/doc4b91442b26352583297643.txt

http://www.myrecordjournal.com/latestnews/article_0fe48dc8-285c-11df-9c80-001cc4c002e0.html


It's only a matter of time before all of these property owner fines in the news become contractors.

[Decoman]

Does it seem like the EPA is targeting property management companies? or is just me.

[Leo G]

Well the government figure if you make money we are gonna attack you, tax you , fee you and try to regulate you until we socialize the whole thing.

[Bodger]

I'm starting to think I might be better off going on the dole. You guys can figure this out and try to earn what you can. I'll go over to the VA and flop and twitch and get a check every month from the government. That seems to be what they want.

Even if we comply, they'll knock honest guys with fines along with those who don't even try to comply. Until they've got every contractor paying off a five figure fine with monthly payments.

It will be rich pickings for the EPA. Especially with subs. None of the electricians or plumbers or roofers I've talked to have a clue about RRP. Those who have heard of it think it only applies to GCs doing large demos for remodels. And once the coffers begin to fill from fines, the EPA will probably ramp up enforcement.

Then the lawyers will get into it once they see a fat revenue stream from lawsuits.

I'm not always this pessimistic, but this thing is a joke and is starting to look to me like nothing more than a way for the government to grab cash.

[Leo G]

I took you long enough to figure it out.

I pretty much had it pegged at the beginning. When they refused to make it public. When are they goin gto make the public announcement, you know, April 23rd.

[Bodger]

I took you long enough to figure it out.



I forgot to say "Bite me" to Leo at the end of that rant. :grin:

Geez, Leo, you could let a guy know about these things.

[Leo G]

Haven't you been reading the same threads I have?

I accept your Bite Me and raise you a Stuff It.:laugh3:

[Bodger]

Haven't you been reading the same threads I have?

I accept your Bite Me and raise you a Stuff It.:laugh3:


Reading is one thing, comprehending and remembering is another.

I see your Stuff It and raise you an Up Yours. :grin::grin:

[Bodger]

This is on the CA License Board site:

CSLB Industry Bulletin - 02/23/2010
Heavy Fines on the Horizon for Violators of New Lead Paint Standards

Federal certification requirements to take effect

SACRAMENTO -The Contractors State License Board (CSLB) is reminding licensees that beginning April 22, 2010, contractors could face fines of up to $37,500 for not complying with federal regulations aimed at protecting them and consumers from exposure to dust from lead-based paints.

The new U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (U.S. EPA) requirements apply to those working on remodeling projects in homes, childcare facilities, and schools built before 1978, all of which are presumed to have lead-based paint. Although the lead-based paint may have been covered by non-toxic paints in subsequent years, remodeling or demolition will disturb the lead paint underneath, potentially harming workers and consumers. For example, amount of lead dust that can cover a three-by-five-inch card can poison a 1,500-square-foot house or apartment, and cause it to fail a lead safety inspection.

Contractors conducting renovation activities in pre-1978 buildings must receive training from a U.S. EPA-accredited training provider. Contractors or their employees with lead safety certification from the California Department of Public Health (DPH) may take a four-hour U.S. EPA-accredited course to achieve federal compliance. At least one person in a firm must be trained and certified in renovation. That firm must then apply to U.S. EPA for firm certification.

The requirements apply to all contractors who disturb lead-based paint in a six-square- foot area or greater indoors, and a 20-square-foot area outdoors. If a DPH-certified inspector or risk assessor determines that a home constructed before 1978 is lead-free, the federal certification is not required for anyone working on that particular building.

Renovator firm certification costs $300 and lasts for five years. Certification forms are available at www.epa.gov/lead, or call 1-800-424-LEAD (5323). Listings of accredited training providers are also available.

[KitchenSync]

Don't worry, Bodger. It'll go nice with all the mercury poisoning from the CFLs that California wanted that nobody knows where they're being disposed...

[Bodger]

Don't worry, Bodger. It'll go nice with all the mercury poisoning from the CFLs that California wanted that nobody knows where they're being disposed...


Yeah, they seem to be keeping that kind of quiet for now.

[Leo G]

They are just setting us up for the next round of new regulations/rules.

I use to play with mercury. Put it in my hand and splat it. The roll all the droplets back together and do it again. I see no effects on myself (twitch).

I always love it when a student drops a mercury thermometer and it shuts the school down, people with hazmat suits and news crews go crazy. All because of .1 oz of mercury. It is totally overblown. But they will make it that way and make it seem that way.

It'll be the next one, mark my words. Oh, after they discover fiberglass is as dangerous as asbestos. :rolleyes:

[naptownCr]

In reality the mercury in a CFL even if released is less than the mercury that would be released into the air from the additonal coal burned to power the same light equivalent of an incandescent bulb over it's life span.
Needless to say I keep a separate cardboard box for the CFL's for recycling once a year at the hazardous clean up days at the dump.

[Leo G]

Did yo know that each and every fluorescent bulb in you house/shop/office contains a small blob of mercury? You can see it if you tip the bulb. They have been making them better and better and using less and less mercury per bulb. But it is still there.

[Bodger]

I used to hop over puddles of Agent Orange on my way to the chow hall.

Still going strong. :laugh3::laugh3:

(flop, twitch, drool)

[Leo G]

That explains soooo much about you.