Ecobond LBP

[afkama]

Anybody know anything about this stuff?

http://www.ecobondlbp.com/FAQs.html

* Is a patented and proprietary product that uses non‐hazardous chemical binders which have already been approved for use by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (USEPA) for use on lead based paints (LBP) for the non-haz removal of lead-based paint (LBP) and lead based paint (LBP) coated materials.
* Treatment chemically converts lead (Pb) contaminants to extremely stable metal‐phosphate compounds that virtually eliminate the leaching of metals to the environment with the degradation of paint over time.
* This application is designed as a latex-based paint for the ease of conventional application and provides for the chemical conversion of lead‐based paints to a non‐hazardous form, thus enabling nonhazardous LBP abatement.

ECOBOND LBP is the world’s patented lead based paint (LBP) removal, or lead based paint abatement, product which has been specifically designed so that one can execute the non-hazardous removal of lead based paint. It is an interior-exterior latex based encapsulant product that creates a chemical conversion which translates the lead (Pb) in lead based paints to a lead mineral which has been proven to be highly effective in a multitude of environments. The end result is that there is a very stable lead mineral which is nearly completely unavailable to humans and the environment.

ECOBOND® LBP is uniquely designed to penetrate into the layer(s) of lead-based paint (LBP) providing treatment of surface level as well as available subsurface lead including through multiple layers. These results have been field verified and through laboratory lead speciation and XRF analysis.

[bconley]

Modern alchemy. now if they could just turn it into gold :egypt:
Is that product any different than encapsulation?
And will the lead phosphate show up as lead in the tests?

[afkama]

Modern alchemy. now if they could just turn it into gold :egypt:
Is that product any different than encapsulation?
And will the lead phosphate show up as lead in the tests?

Is ECOBOND® LBP simply “masking” the RCRA TCLP tests in some short-term manner and thus violating the intent of RCRA TCLP?

ECOBOND® LBP is pH neutral and does not utilize materials providing a simple pH adjustment thus buffering the TCLP acid solution and bypassing the intent of the RCRA TCLP test. MT2 strongly discourages the use of acidic buffering as a “treatment”. Rather, ECOBOND® LBP chemical conversion technology utilizes phosphate-based materials, which chemically react with the lead found in LBP to form a new lead-phosphate mineral compound. U.S. EPA approved testing has demonstrated that this lead-phosphate mineral is highly durable to over 1,000 years using MEP’s testing and is virtually insoluble maintaining a solubility log KsP factor lower than 10-8. These test’s plus others demonstrate that not only does ECOBOND® LBP not violate the RCRA TCLP test but also that it actually outperforms this testing standard.

[Eieio]

English Please for us common folk......... :rolleyes3:

[Meetre]

Binds with lead to make it less toxic to humans. Didn't do any checking, but from what's been posted, it "binds" with the lead to create a chemical compound that isn't absorbed into people, making the lead non-toxic.

But what do I know, I'm just a contractor.

[Meetre]

from their site:

Following ECOBOND® LBP application, is the lead found within the existing lead-based paint made non-toxic and non-hazardous?
Following ECOBOND® LBP application the lead while converted to a new lead phosphate mineral, is not destroyed nor eliminated and may continue to exhibit potential bioavailability and toxicity.

The new lead phosphate mineral will be non-hazardous, virtually environmentally leach free. Additionally, as result of the new paint coating (encapsulation) the lead is much less likely to spread into the surrounding soil and groundwater and will present a significantly reduced airborne exposure potential to workers and local citizens.

[RCP]

bumpity bump

[nEighter]

who the hell knows. And I am wiff rory on this one.. engrish pwease!

[Leo G]

So, is it $300/qt or something? Sounds like magic to me. Hard to believe the integrity of the original LBP will not be sacrificed so the coating can penetrate into the LBP to neutralize the lead throughout the thickness of the LBP.

[naptownCr]

bumpity bump

I knew I read abut this stuff somewhere and it was here Thanks Chris!

[mmiller]

I have been using this stuff for a lot of lead stripping lately. I use it with Peel Away 1, which is a good lead stripper. Ecobond sells a stripper additive that you can only buy in 5 gallon powder. It is about $240 with shipping. It is enough to treat a huge amount. I think they said something like 10,000 sq ft. though I could be off on that. They say on their website that they will formulate your additive to use with whatever stripper you choose. However, when you order it they will tell you it will work with all strippers as it. The problem is it doesn't work with Peel Away 1. It sets off the lye in it and hardens up the whole bucket and won't strip anymore after the reaction. It worked alright with Peel Away 7 or other non-lye strippers. It is supposed to work through all the layers of lead being carried by the stripper. I am not sure if it goes beyond the stripper though. The way I have found to make it work with Peel Away 1 is to put a thin layer of Ecobond on first mixed with some kind of gelatinous substance, I use Soft Soap. After that dries, I use the Peel Away 1 as usual. The customer support at Peel Away has been helpful as they have gotten complaints before about Ecobond not working with their product. The support at Ecobond has been useless as they don't answer their phone or return my calls.