Cabineture

[Leo G]

It's the term I use when I am building a pc of furniture in the cabinet fashion. Usually fine furniture is built in a traditional way. Mostly wood, mortise and tenon and joinery with very few fasteners. Cabineture is built in a cabinet fashion but looks like furniture. Mainly made of plywood little if any joinery, screws, nails and glue hold it together.

I am building a hutch for a client. He found it on the front page of a wood magazine. They show how to build it in 5 or 6 pcs. I am building the same thing, just in 2 pc.

It is for a client that I built a natural Cherry kitchen for. This pc will also be natural Cherry.

So far I have built the doors, shelves, drawer fronts, lower cabinet and the upper cabinet. Still need to build the drawers, counter and the backs. The shelves are in the spray room along with the upper cabinet. The lower cabinet still needs some moldings applied and it will be ready for the spray room. Not to many pics to show. So far I have pics of the upper cabinet which is what I was working on today.

Testing out the shelves:
http://fototime.com/88BC1B0FD4F7F28/orig.jpg

Ready to get the first coat:
http://fototime.com/FE6D1BE416ACC92/orig.jpg

[naptownCr]

Cool Project Leo
Looks good so far, Cudo's on simplifying to two pieces
Is it be nice to Leo day again?

[Leo G]

Ya, that went off real well. Let's not try that again.

[naptownCr]

Too bad it ended and it went back to business as usual ( read abuse Leo)
I really appreciate your picture posts and am jealous of the shop and what you create. that is some great work ( sorry the goose is kicking in and the large words are eluding me)
But buzz aside you create some really nice stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Leo G]

Thanks. But this is what I do. But at the end of the day I get a lot of fulfillment from it. There are times when I make a nice project I have a hard time getting back to work because I am in admire mode.

I just really wish I could make this stuff for my own home.

[naptownCr]

Thanks. But this is what I do. But at the end of the day I get a lot of fulfillment from it. There are times when I make a nice project I have a hard time getting back to work because I am in admire mode.

I just really wish I could make this stuff for my own home.

there is a way grasshopper
spend less time on the forums and devote 2-3 hours a week to doing something for your house. save the useable scraps to reduce material costs and within a year you will have a new kitchen! PS your wife will appreciate it too!

[neolitic]

......Is it be nice to Leo day again?

I hit the "Thanks" button
from time to time just to
irritate him....http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilie/smilieshifty.gif

[Leo G]

Making the cabinets is child's play.

It's the house that is the problem. The kitchen needs to be ripped down to the studs. The floor needs to be removed and the joist system leveled.

As I told my wife, when you walk in one day, you will be looking at the cellar.

I refuse to put a bunch of high end cabinets in my home if the room is in the condition it is currently in.

I rarely have "scrap" that is sufficient to do anything with other than smaller projects. I use programs that tell me how to cut and use my plywood efficiently and there is usually little left that is usable. What is left is usually used for jigs and test pcs.

Solid wood, if it is sufficiently large enough is saved. It is used for moldings, face frames and other things that use skinnier pcs.

[Bodger]

Making the cabinets is child's play.

It's the house that is the problem. The kitchen needs to be ripped down to the studs. The floor needs to be removed and the joist system leveled.

As I told my wife, when you walk in one day, you will be looking at the cellar.

I refuse to put a bunch of high end cabinets in my home if the room is in the condition it is currently in.

I rarely have "scrap" that is sufficient to do anything with other than smaller projects. I use programs that tell me how to cut and use my plywood efficiently and there is usually little left that is usable. What is left is usually used for jigs and test pcs.

Solid wood, if it is sufficiently large enough is saved. It is used for moldings, face frames and other things that use skinnier pcs.


What's a good program for those materials/cutting lists?

[Leo G]

There are plenty of good programs to do that. Ranging from shareware to free to $20K+

I use eCabinet. It is a free program. It has a high learning curve (Ask Splinter) and can be difficult to grasp. I found it pretty easy after I learned the basics. It will give a cutlist for your solid wood, but I rarely use that, and a cutlist and nesting for the plywood parts. I will usually print out the face frames for each individual cabinet and dimension it out in the program. Then hand write the parts list for it. That way each cabinet has a picture and the list of parts on it.

The best feature with the nesting is that I can tell how many sheets of plywood I will require.

http://fototime.com/2CAC282E98A4D90/orig.jpg

[Bodger]

Yeah, we PM'd about e-cab a while back. I remember you saying it wasn't intuitive and required some time to learn.

I still do it all on 1/4" blue graph paper with a pencil. If I start making more cabinets and furniture I'll have to upgrade that. And a lot of other things.

My favorite part about making furniture is "admire mode". I like it when the finish hasn't been applied yet but everything is assembled. Especially when it's natural wood, not plywood. Something about those face frames and unsanded molding. Great stuff.

[Splinter]

I use eCabinet. It is a free program. It has a high learning curve (Ask Splinter) and can be difficult to grasp.


I hate that stupid program.... :mad:

[Bodger]

I hate that stupid program.... :mad:


Yeah, I couldn't get a grip on it and knew damn well I'd have to dink around with it for a long time to get even close to proficient.

Hell, I don't even have the patience for SketchUp. :laugh3:

[Splinter]

I dont have to do cabinet drawings very often, but it would be nice to present a cad drawing instead of a pencil drawing. I felt like a total tool when I had to hand draw a set of kitchen cabinets for someone last year... They paid $20K for the project, and I did it all on plain paper with a pencil and square.

I just signed on to do a roughly 10K cabinet/furniture project for a kids room this morning, I want to dazzle the homeowner with some nice pictures. Time to dig out the manual for Ecabs and start reading.... Or else pay Leo to draw it all....

[Leo G]

I had about 100 hours into the program by the time I was able to do some nice things in it. Now I probably have about 1000 hours into it and can do just about anything. The CAD portion of the program sucks. But you can import DXF files from AutCAD [or others] and use them as templates. My basic limit on the program now is my computer. You really need a kick ass system to go quick on the program. Otherwise you have to wait for it to perform its function.

What do you got Alex? You're money is no good here. Maybe I can do it pro bono. and you can owe me. Can imagine what I could get from you though. But you did help me with my computer problem so I do owe you something.

[Splinter]

I can pay you $50, two packs of cigs, and a hot pocket.... :D

The room is tiny, 10x10... This is sort of a three wall plan. First wall is a twin bed, next to it on wall 2 is a night table which then blends into tall cabinets that finish off the wall, and continue on to wall three. Probably all drawers up to 36", and then doors with shelving inside up to 7' or so. Wall three only gets cab's about 7' down so they dont interfere with the entry door. Bed is going to be platform style with drawers underneath.

Did you really send my computer disk back to me, or is it lost in your house somewhere?

[Leo G]

I have it, it is safe. I just have to get my lazy ass down to the post office to send it to you. I'll let you have it back if you really really need it bad. :laugh3:


$50, 2 12 paks of coke zero and a hot pocket.

[Leo G]

Pretty much done with the Cherry Hutch. The only thing its missing is 3 sets of hinges. So I could only hang one door. I ordered them and they sent me the wrong ones. 1/2" overlay instead of 1/2 overlay with an inset FF adapter plate. So I have to wait for them to arrive, again. Sucky picture with the cell phone.

http://fototime.com/523238DDF45FC7D/orig.jpg

[Celia]

it looks great...I have one just like that...really useful