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tinner666
April 15th, 2010, 09:52 PM
All this RRP talk. Nobody has mentioned demo disposal. All dumps say 'No Hazardous Waste' at the gate.
Do you want to bet that they're gonna stop contractors to make sure no lead tainted material will be dumped? Then what? Special dumps like the asbestos fiasco?
$5,000.00 per ton fees at a special dump will be covered by the $35.00 job increase, won't it?
You window guys will have one bag of trash and face a minimum 'Hazardous Waste Fee' for a single bag. You do have that covered in your prices, right?
Trickle down government BS is right around the corner.:thumbsdown:
Silvertree
April 15th, 2010, 10:16 PM
It will be handled as regular waste, if done as an RRP job. They know it will be a small amount of lead.
Knock down a whole house and it goes to the landfill, remove 3 pieces of casing and it goes to the landfill.
That's been covered in the classes, no special dumpster or site for disposal.???
bconley
April 15th, 2010, 10:29 PM
From EPA
Dispose of waste water appropriately.
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Water used for cleanup should be filtered and dumped in a toilet if local rules allow. If not, collect it in a drum and take it with you. Never dump this water down a sink or tub, down a storm drain, or on the ground. Always dispose of waste water in accordance with federal, state and local regulations.
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EPA’s Web site has state information on solid and hazardous waste disposal. See the following link for futher information: http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/wyl/stateprograms.htm.
Be aware of waste disposal rules.
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Because EPA considers most residential renovation and remodeling as “routine residential maintenance,” most waste generated during these activities is classified as solid, non-hazardous waste, and should be taken to a licensed solid waste landfill. This is not the case for work done in commercial, public or other nonresidential child-occupied facilities, where waste may be considered hazardous and require special disposal methods. See the following link for futher information: www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/fslbp.htm.
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Always check state and local requirements before disposing of
waste. Some are more stringent than federal regulations.
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Blue
April 15th, 2010, 10:32 PM
Its hazardous for some people to eat or breathe the dust of it but I'm not sure it fall into the classifacation as "Hazardous Waste" as far as a landfill regulations go, but you bring up a good point.
I have been schlepping my trash trailor to the same landfill for more than 20 years. It seems every year they get more and more picky about what they will and won't accept.
Right now they make us seperate plastic buckets and caulking tubes. You have to throw them in a specially marked trailor that they provide. They make you rip open any trash bags because they are dead serious about these caulking tubes. They will not tell me why though.
Used to be anything and everything was allowed. I wouldn't put it past them to begin refusing the lead stuff but I don't know how they could enforce it. I throw alot of siding away from the 80's for example. Tons of it.
bconley
April 15th, 2010, 10:37 PM
In the second link above it states that the EPA has regulated the dumps, to have to accept the lead waste.
They want people to be able to follow the rule.
Bodger
April 15th, 2010, 11:11 PM
In the second link above it states that the EPA has regulated the dumps, to have to accept the lead waste.
They want people to be able to follow the rule.
Next year the EPA will realize there is even more revenue to be generated by requiring us to obtain hazardous waste management certificates and there will be new regulations.
The drip method. Slowly, steadily they wear away at us until somebody snaps. Gets fined $37,500 and can't feed their family or pay their rent.
tinner666
April 18th, 2010, 07:49 PM
I don't know guys. Just got this from another site. Guy in Indiana.
" Took my test today and passed! After listening to the instructor I don't see how all this will work in the real world. It will become a state level enforcement issue soon. Building inspectors will be given the power to fine. They figure it will add $150.00 per window replacement for example to follow all guidelines on a normal window replacement. Guess who pays. Will add a lot of time to each job. Oh and you can't put more the 220 lbs. of lead contaminated waste in a dumpster at a time or it will have to go to a haz mat dump. Have a nice day you got to April to get certified."
naptownCr
April 18th, 2010, 07:55 PM
Its hazardous for some people to eat or breathe the dust of it but I'm not sure it fall into the classifacation as "Hazardous Waste" as far as a landfill regulations go, but you bring up a good point.
I have been schlepping my trash trailor to the same landfill for more than 20 years. It seems every year they get more and more picky about what they will and won't accept.
Right now they make us seperate plastic buckets and caulking tubes. You have to throw them in a specially marked trailor that they provide. They make you rip open any trash bags because they are dead serious about these caulking tubes. They will not tell me why though.
Used to be anything and everything was allowed. I wouldn't put it past them to begin refusing the lead stuff but I don't know how they could enforce it. I throw alot of siding away from the 80's for example. Tons of it.
I hope that's masonite
Vinyl and Aluminium can be recycled or sold for scrap.
neolitic
April 18th, 2010, 09:00 PM
I don't know guys. Just got this from another site. Guy in Indiana.
" Took my test today and passed! After listening to the instructor I don't see how all this will work in the real world. It will become a state level enforcement issue soon. Building inspectors will be given the power to fine. They figure it will add $150.00 per window replacement for example to follow all guidelines on a normal window replacement. Guess who pays. Will add a lot of time to each job. Oh and you can't put more the 220 lbs. of lead contaminated waste in a dumpster at a time or it will have to go to a haz mat dump. Have a nice day you got to April to get certified."
Frank, you can't believe anybody
from Indiana. :grin:
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