Wonky Door help

[WarnerConstInc.]

So I got involved in a mess but, a mess that pays very well.

Basically 2 lady's, one from Vegas and one from Missouri bought an old double brick wall, 3 story, mansard victorian on the other end of my street.

Long story short, I have 3 floors of doors to hang, not the original doors mind you but, old doors they have bought at a salvage store. I am pretty efficient at getting any door to fit any opening.

I trimmed and hung the front door, fits the opening well enough, about 1/8" gap all the way around the jamb.

Went to another exterior door, hinge side of the jamb is plumb and level, the strike side is out 5/8" at the top. I cheated my hinges a bit but, it is not a good fit for any kind of seal. The door is not warped either.

I really want to beat the whole jamb out with a sledge but, I am afraid I will really open pandora's box that way.

I am thinking of trimming the door stop edge of the jamb so it is plumb.
Not too difficult with my rail saw and my MM.

I am however, open to suggestions. Did I mention I have 3 floors worth and about 2000 LF of trim and various other abortions to fix.

[ChrWright]

These old doors are going into existing jambs/openings?

[WarnerConstInc.]

Yes Chris, old doors from a salvage store, I am trimming them to fit and hanging them in the existing openings.

I made them take back a few because of how bad they had been trimmed at some other point in time.

[ChrWright]

Wow. You really like a challenge don't you.

(Or have you secretly been hiding a masochistic streak? :grin:)

I'm guessing you'll have to use about every trick in the book on that house.

5/8" is a little much to cheat. Sounds like it needs a little "persuasion"--but if the trim isn't painted you might end up with a bigger mess as you said.

[neolitic]

That sledge trick might
get you into some brick work
repair tricks.
Just sayin....




Bless yer heart.

[WarnerConstInc.]

The trim and jamb on this door is painted.
It has a transom above the door and is also an arch top on the exterior.

The whole house is double brick, I really thought about taking the door and transom out, cutting back the caulk, screwing on a 2x12 and beating the top corner out until it is almost plumb. There are like 6 different attempts at door strikes and hinges that I am going to have to fill and patch.


I kind of enjoy this kind of work, really gets me thinking and I get to use the green tools to their full capability.

I may have a link to post of this place.

[WarnerConstInc.]

That sledge trick might
get you into some brick work
repair tricks.
Just sayin....




Bless yer heart.

That thought crossed my mind as well, I can see behind part of the jamb and I don't see too many nails holding the jamb in. There is nothing but brick behind that jamb and maybe a few nailers, I could get in there and cut the nails, there is no exterior trim on it.

[WarnerConstInc.]

Found a link but, only one picture.

http://serendipityinnbedandbreakfast.com/index.html

I was in the Sunday News Paper as well.

[nEighter]

I hear duct tape works in pinches.. and it is paintable too..

[WarnerConstInc.]

I hear duct tape works in pinches.. and it is paintable too..

Yeah, putty and paint huh.:laugh3:

I could let a bit slide if it was not an interior door.

If I only had something to screw to, I would run a big GRK in there and putty it up.:smash:

[nEighter]

I am like 8 miles from Missouri at the outside.. give me her addy and I will go put a strangle hold on her for being a cheap ass..

j/k I don't do "hit" jobs..

[AdaptMy2]

I am like 8 miles from Missouri at the outside.. give me her addy and I will go put a strangle hold on her for being a cheap ass..

j/k I don't do "hit" jobs..

Cheap may not be the issue as they've got this lovely restoration going on. Perhaps it's more like recycling/restoration/keeping everything in context for the period.

And they plan to be open and have guests this month?

[WarnerConstInc.]

Cheap may not be the issue as they've got this lovely restoration going on. Perhaps it's more like recycling/restoration/keeping everything in context for the period.

And they plan to be open and have guests this month?

The guests part won't happen, I won't even tell you about the bathroom situation.

[orson]

I just did the same thing you mentioned above on an exterior door slab replacement a few weeks ago.

The slab was hitting at the bottom and out over a half inch at the top.

I screwed a strip of plywood to the jamb and ran my palm router down to trim the stop(finished the cut at the bottom w/ Fein) and cheated the bottom hinge out as much as I could afford until I got contact on the weatherstrip all the way around.

Had to move the strikes of course. I think in most instances this is a lot easier than moving the jamb and screwing with all the trim, inside and out.

[WarnerConstInc.]

I pulled the strike side casing and found a mess.

I spent all day but, that door opens and closes like it was sort of new.

What a mess.

[neolitic]

I pulled the strike side casing and found a mess.

I spent all day but, that door opens and closes like it was sort of new.

What a mess.

Describe "mess."

[WarnerConstInc.]

Describe "mess."

It was a dusty, mortary, plastery, bricky, wonky, loose mess.

Oh, not to mention the wire that was burred behind there.

[Winchester]

It was a dusty, mortary, plastery, bricky, wonky, loose mess.

Oh, not to mention the wire that was burred behind there.What wire? Did you see any wire? I didn't see any wire... ;)

[Leo G]

It was a dusty, mortary, plastery, bricky, wonky, loose mess.

Oh, not to mention the wire that was burred behind there.

Ooooooo RRP :mad2:

[Blue]

Are you finding that you are having to kick the dead bodies out of your way from the lead dust when you get there in the mornings?

[WarnerConstInc.]

Just the dead pet bodies.

[neolitic]

Were the nailer blocks still tight
in the brickwork?
Someone else had cut it loose
and left it out of plane?

[WarnerConstInc.]

Were the nailer blocks still tight
in the brickwork?
Someone else had cut it loose
and left it out of plane?

I think some one messed with it when they ran a wire to a switch box and to an outside light.

The block at the bottom was tight, the middle and top ones were loose.

I drove some wedges in them to get them tight and then pushed some PL in there with my five way.

Then pulled the whole jamb out with a few bar clamps.

[neolitic]

I think some one messed with it when they ran a wire to a switch box and to an outside light.

The block at the bottom was tight, the middle and top ones were loose.

I drove some wedges in them to get them tight and then pushed some PL in there with my five way.

Then pulled the whole jamb out with a few bar clamps.

Sounds almost painless.
Why did it take all day? http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilie/smiliewhistling2.gif http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilie/smilielaughing.gif

[WarnerConstInc.]

Sounds almost painless.
Why did it take all day? http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilie/smiliewhistling2.gif http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilie/smilielaughing.gif

I know, sounds so simple huh? There were a couple 5" nails in there.

I cut out about 22" of the strike part of the jamb, it resembled swiss cheese by this point in time.:laugh3:

[neolitic]

So often the solution sounds simple.....
after you finally figure out how th hell
to accomplish it.

[Leo G]

Hell, it might take half the day to figure out what the heck you need to do and 1 hour to do it.

Then some wise ass comes up and asks why it took so long. Especially when you make the repair look so simple.

You gotta tell them it took you 20 years of experience just to know how to figure it out and only a few hours of thinking to actually come up with an idea that will work.

But since they see the final idea, they never realize how many different trial and errors it took to come up with something that worked

Ask BP.

[WarnerConstInc.]

Damn Leo, you are on a BP kick here lately.

They just wanted it fixed right so they wouldn't have to do it again.
They told to me do what I had to, they have been chicken hawking me though. I guess they want to make sure they are getting their money's worth.

I had to sit down the other day when 3 of them decided to stand right where I was working. Took them about 10 minutes to realize they were in the way.

I forgot to mention I have to deal with a mean poodle, a sneaky cat, and an annoying ass parrot.

[Leo G]

Watch the news. That is pretty much all they talk about. It kinda stuck in my head.

[WarnerConstInc.]

All I keep hearing is BP and fail, over and over.

[Leo G]

They said they are siphoning oil from the well head.

Subsea operational update:
• The LMRP cap was placed on top of the LMRP at approximately 8:35 pm CDT
on June 3.
• Gas first reached the Discoverer Enterprise at approximately 11:00 pm CDT on June 3; oil followed at approximately 11:10 pm CDT.
• On June 4, a total of 6,077 barrels of oil was collected and 15.7 million standard cubic feet of natural gas was flared.
• Optimization continues and improvement in oil collection is expected over the next several days.

[WarnerConstInc.]

Here are a couple:

[neolitic]

A couple of what?

[WarnerConstInc.]

A couple of what?

Sorry, trying to figure out how to re-size pictures on my laptop...

[WarnerConstInc.]

Stupid windows media player bull crap...

[Blue]

Holy hidden mess Batman!