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Leo G
July 22nd, 2010, 10:04 PM
I bought doors to do this remodel. Made it affordable for the lady. A PLAM kitchen, doors and cabinets. The doors had some pretty ugly Oak inset pulls. New doors are Shaker style and painted with a white (BM Mountain Peak White) conversion varnish.
Too bad I took pics with my camera phone.
Before
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After
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Before
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After
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Leo G
July 22nd, 2010, 10:05 PM
Before
http://fototime.com/14024B99EE23FB5/orig.jpg
After
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Extra cabs
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Silvertree
July 22nd, 2010, 10:06 PM
Nice reface, I tell people only a pro will know its a reface when its been done by a pro.
Leo G
July 22nd, 2010, 10:10 PM
The original cabs were in not to good shape. The sink cabinet had a sever rack and the lower deck was 1/4" longer than the top of the cabinet. Made it tough to get nice reveals. Some of the laminated edges of the front of the cabs (behind closed doors) was chipped and because of budget was not repaired. So as long as you don't open up the doors it looks great.
I still have to put up the soffits and some small crown. Didn't have enough time to do it today.
Eieio
July 22nd, 2010, 10:22 PM
Hell of a make over. The door style looks really good.
I always think to rip them out, I might have to give refacing a try some time..
Leo G
July 22nd, 2010, 10:33 PM
She walked in and the floor just got really wet from her c**ing all over the place. You should have seen what happened when she rubbed her hand over the finish of the doors "ohhhh, it's so soft.."
After a bit she asked if she could write me a check. That right there is a satisfied customer. Can't get back there for a week to finish up.
Have to make a few small parts and I screwed up on the soffit for the refrigerator. I forgot to add for the 3/4" panel and will have to make it again (dammit). So that mean make it, prime it, paint it, let it cure for a day or so.
DavidC
July 22nd, 2010, 10:53 PM
Nice face lift. What a difference new doors can make.
Good Luck
Dave
AdaptMy
July 23rd, 2010, 09:57 AM
Looks great! A million times better than those ugly cabinet doors they had! Kitchen sink looks tiny, though...or is it just the angle?
bconley
July 23rd, 2010, 10:13 AM
Nice job Leo.
How much money do you think you saved them?
Did you price it both ways? (reface/new)
shanekw1
July 23rd, 2010, 10:17 AM
Nice improvement for sure.
It is a shame to see that wallpaper being covered up.
Leo G
July 23rd, 2010, 10:31 AM
Nice job Leo.
How much money do you think you saved them?
Did you price it both ways? (reface/new)
No idea on how much money saved. There was never an option for a new kitchen. This was strictly budget work. Something I am not use to doing. I uttered the term it is good enough a couple of times on the install, something I never do. But in order to make any money a budget is a budget.
A new kitchen like they have here would have been 17-21K
Leo G
July 23rd, 2010, 10:37 AM
Looks great! A million times better than those ugly cabinet doors they had! Kitchen sink looks tiny, though...or is it just the angle?
Nope, sink is small. It is a little bigger than the hole because it is an undermount, it is deep 10" plus the thickness of the countertop. She has a dishwasher, don't need a sink for much else.
ChrWright
July 24th, 2010, 08:47 AM
Nice work as usual, and much improved.
Was this the project they delayed your door delivery for?
Allrounder
July 24th, 2010, 09:15 AM
Great job Leo, those old doors had to go away!
Leo G
July 24th, 2010, 09:21 AM
Nice work as usual, and much improved.
Was this the project they delayed your door delivery for?
This is the project they tried to delay my doors for. I bitched and told them as a new customer if they thought that delaying my first order with them was gonna get repeat business out of me, they had better rethink their company policies.
I got my doors when promised. The delay would have cost me 11 days.:censored:
kornerking
August 4th, 2010, 10:16 PM
No idea on how much money saved. There was never an option for a new kitchen. This was strictly budget work. Something I am not use to doing. I uttered the term it is good enough a couple of times on the install, something I never do. But in order to make any money a budget is a budget.
A new kitchen like they have here would have been 17-21K
Serious question: would it really have been that much? When I looked at it I was seeing 9-11,000 installed in maple or alder. Are prices really that much higher on the east coast?
Maybe I should be sending my work east.
PS : it would have included a workable corner.:rolleyes3:
Leo G
August 4th, 2010, 10:30 PM
Custom cabinets with a custom color, yep. The coast pricing is definitely higher. Texas seems to be the lowest pricing in the union. CA, NY, NJ, CT, MA seem to be up there.
And it depends on what the boxes are made out of. Mine are usually veneered plywood. Melamine would be substantially cheaper for the materials. $25/sh compared to $93/sh for A1 Maple.
kornerking
August 4th, 2010, 10:40 PM
Veneer core plywood all the way. Solid maple dovetail drawers, Blumotion self close slides-- standard. No damn particleboard.
kornerking
August 4th, 2010, 10:43 PM
"Texas seems to be the lowest pricing in the union"
In Minnesota all we have for cheap labor is illegal Canadians. They are too smart to come south and work cheap so not even many of them.
Leo G
August 4th, 2010, 10:47 PM
We did a sample kitchen on Woodweb. Someone specified what the kitchen would be, what it should be made of and how it was finished and installed.
Texas guys came up with prices about $8K and the coast areas were around $21K
After buying materials, most of the coast guys were already past $4K So it left $4K to build and install a kitchen, no countertops were included in the work.
kornerking
August 4th, 2010, 10:55 PM
The Black Walnut kitchen I showed a few weeks past was only a little over 12,000.
VC Maple in the Twin Cities is $68.00 a sheet. Must be the freight.
Cherry is running around $90
Leo G
August 4th, 2010, 11:12 PM
Cherry is just peaking around $100/sh here. I can get a c grade prefinished maple for about $65. I really don't like the prefinished products. By the time you get done working them there is a good chance of scratches. If you have a panel saw it would be very feasible. And you can't really glue to the face so you need to rely on the strength of the mechanical fastener.
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