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Silvertree
September 28th, 2010, 07:46 PM
I take my 16 year old to the doctor today, it's easy to talk in the truck, no texting or whatever. We have a nice conversation.

Coming back she says, Dad I need to build a small model truck or I flunk science,

I say, when do you need it?

She says, tomorrow!

What?

I look at the instructions and it's all in centimeters, I set up a chop box, rummage through my scraps and pin nail the damn thing together, but we got no wheels.

So I get my hole saws and make wheels out of 3/8 plywood and use breakaway screws for axels, this needs to roll 2 meters off a ramp.

Got a big hug and who said I wasn't a woodworker.

kornerking
September 28th, 2010, 07:49 PM
Way to go Pops. She will remember this in the future when she is a mom.

ChrWright
September 28th, 2010, 08:02 PM
Good job Dad. :2thumbsup:

JumboJack
September 28th, 2010, 08:06 PM
Being the dad of two little girls is by far the best thing to ever happen to me.They are my world.


BTW....It is a scientific fact.Girls are made of sugar and spice and everything nice,boy's are made of rocks and snails and puppy dog tails...It's true...Look it up.

Eieio
September 28th, 2010, 08:07 PM
The bumper is crooked Dad.. :laugh3:

Bodger
September 28th, 2010, 08:08 PM
Good on ya Pop.

That's the stuff they remember.

nEighter
September 28th, 2010, 09:48 PM
Pretty cool man. Tulsa you numbskull :laugh3: we need to give you a hug huh?

asprice84
September 28th, 2010, 10:06 PM
As a general rule I will not criticize anyone with an article before their name. Good work on the fatherhood, these things are very important. :clap:

PA Woodbutcher
September 29th, 2010, 05:07 AM
Nice quick job on the truck Paul.

I gotta sorta agree with TULSA on what he's trying to say. I did the same thing for my daughter (helped when I shouldn't have). My son on the other hand, I usually said tough shit, you should have thought about that last week. The I would give him a day or 2 to think about that and then help him so he could hand it in late. He wouldn't get full credit for it, but I always made sure he got some credit for it.

Of the 2 he has grown up better prepared for life.

Silvertree
September 29th, 2010, 05:12 AM
You cheated to make your daughter pass science? I'd rather have my kids fear me then like me.

She did the sanding on the parts. Fathers could help so although I don't believe in doing her work like her homework (never have never will), I did build that truck.

I see no point in my kids fearing me.

PA Woodbutcher
September 29th, 2010, 05:53 AM
Didn't catch the fear part, sorry bout that.

Sometimes it's a very fine line between fear and respect. I crossed the line a few times and always regretted it.

All in all there is no answer for any question that will work for all kids. When they were growing up, a raised voice would sometimes bring my daughter to tears, when it took a swat in the mouth just to get my sons attention.:smash: He gets that from me.:grin:

Silvertree
September 29th, 2010, 07:22 AM
I grew up getting the strap, when I was 14 my dad went for the strap and I went nuts, I rushed him and jacked his ass.

I don't regret that but it changed everything and it took many, many years to get to being a father and son again.

Tulsa's opinion is based on what, successful parenting?

It's a complicated job being a parent. It's complicated being a child also.

Leo G
September 29th, 2010, 07:23 AM
She should have designed the truck, made out the parts list. Because of the tools involved and her like of training it was right for you to cut up the parts. She should have been allowed to put it together with glue and the nailgun with your supervision.

This is one of the problems with teaching these days. safety is put foremost in front and the parents end up doing the job while the kid sits on the sidelines watching Mom or Dad do their homework.

At times when I was in grade school I cried because I couldn't accomplish my homework and I knew I was going to get a bad grade. My parents didn't help me directly. They encouraged me and led me in the right direction. But the work was mine and mine alone to complete or fail.

Getting an "F" on something sucked, but you learned from it to. Failure is a tool just as success is.

I hope you get an "A" on your truck Paul. But did your little girl learn anything useful from this?

kornerking
September 29th, 2010, 08:04 AM
Screw all the advice givers Paul, Ya done good.

Bodger
September 29th, 2010, 08:13 AM
My kids fear FOR me. :grin:

DavidC
September 29th, 2010, 08:15 AM
What Pete said Paul. In fact I'm surprised the paper contractors aren't giving you kudos for teaching her how to sub out the work.

My dad died when I was 8 so mom was the enforcer. She had leather belts, those wooden paddles after the string broke for the ball and a good solid swing with an open hand. I never took her down, saw an older sister try once. But as with your dad it took a long time to reconcile. My son grew up fine without the strap.

And I wouldn't worry about Tulsa's opinion, he probably doesn't even know someone is using is name here.

Good Luck
Dave

Silvertree
September 29th, 2010, 08:35 AM
My kids fear FOR me. :grin:

We all fear for you Kevin:grin:

JamesDibben
September 29th, 2010, 08:35 AM
In 20 years she's going to remember building that truck together and the grade she get's won't mean sh*t.

Kudos for spending time with your kid. Everything else is crap.

Silvertree
September 29th, 2010, 08:40 AM
Longer thread than I would have thought.

What you don't know is, my daughters (both) have issues. I feel like I got screwed when the neighbor tells me.

My daughter is class president, taking piano, plays the cello, talks 3 languages and is a chef. My kid is going to Spain for 3 weeks, my kid is speaking at the state congress next week.

Shit, my kid gets to go to the skate park at best and texts on her phone next week.

I love my daughters, I see hope, I see aspiration, I see the future.

Yesterday I go look at a job, the HO's have a 7 year severely autistic son, he get restrained, he screams at the top of his lungs if his cereal isn't perfect, he gets caught and stuck in the stair railing.

I ask the dad if it isn't difficult? He says, I feel all children are a blessing.
I am humbled by his love for his son.

I am blessed, I am a father.

kornerking
September 29th, 2010, 08:45 AM
Their Mom must be some women!!!! 3 kids and a full time job.

Dean CRCNA
September 29th, 2010, 08:46 AM
I have two daughters. One 26 and one 30. They are different like day and night. Had to raise them differently too. Have two granddaughters from each of the daughters. They too are different like day and night and need to be handled differently.

Paul,

If you have a 16 year old daughter who is willing to go with you to the doctor, talks with you and knows that you are willing to help her when she goofed up ... you are doing things right.

It is important to teach them "life is tough". It is more important though to make sure that they know you adore them. You can actually do both at the same time.

Good job

Silvertree
September 29th, 2010, 08:51 AM
Ha ha Pete, and your right, these are crazy full time at everything people.

I live in an upscale community, God only knows how I ended up here, but there are cracks in the armour.

My daughters friends love coming to our home, we have pizza, tacos, I talk to the kids (briefly) and they respond.

The religious parents (she's an alcoholic he is a wife beater)

The husband and wife doctors (controlling and judgmental)

The property owners (slumlords with 4 deaths from a preventable fire on a rental)

Yeah, Blondie and I made mistakes but we always got time for our kids.

Greg from K/W
September 29th, 2010, 09:19 AM
In 20 years she's going to remember building that truck together and the grade she get's won't mean sh*t.

Kudos for spending time with your kid. Everything else is crap.

I cannot agree with that more. Time spent doing anything with your kids is what will keep them out of trouble not a belt hand or paddle. Good on ya Bro. I wish my Dad had understood that part of it. I had a blast tearing an old 4 cylinder motor apart and rebuilding it with him. That is what I remember being one of the few things we did together. As a result we grew apart and from what I feel never recovered from that. So keep it up and forget the nay Sayers here.

Bodger
September 29th, 2010, 10:02 AM
I've paid for private schools, orthodontist, guitar lessons, $400 skateboards, and driven all over hell's half acre dropping off and picking up. Volunteered to cook at school pancake suppers and sat in front of snarky monsignors when there was a fight at school.

But what the kid will remember most is this damn trash truck I built for him when he was three, and similar things.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt10/dingoff/jacktrash3-1.jpg

I know I've posted this pic before in another thread, so I'm showing off again (not trying to upstage Paul.)

It's just an example of stopping along the way and doing what is really important, what is most lasting and what shapes a kid's memories.

My dad was a hard man. The depression, then four years fighting the japs in the Pacific, he had a lot of hard bark on him. What few good memories I have of him is when we were building something.

Might be why swinging a hammer is a comfort zone for me. As soon as the RC staff psychiatrist comes in, maybe I'll ask him.

Where is Modern anyway? :grin:

Leo G
September 29th, 2010, 11:00 AM
Yes she will remember it. It will be a great memory. But what did she get out of it scholastically right now. That is what needs to be focused on. Spending time with your children is always precious. It goes so fast. But you must let the children spread their wings. Sometimes it is hard for them, but that builds character.

You did good Paul, even if I am bashing on you. You did good.

kornerking
September 29th, 2010, 11:50 AM
Leo, not all of us were born knowing it all. Some of us needed mentors. Thanks for being a know it all mentor. Give me time I too will learn.

Leo G
September 29th, 2010, 03:26 PM
My middle name is hypocrite.

Silvertree
September 29th, 2010, 04:11 PM
Pete and Leo, I hope we all end up at the same bar sometime:grin:

nEighter
September 29th, 2010, 04:16 PM
If I were there I don't think I would have much to contribute. I would be like a sponge.. soakin it all up :D Would be funnier than hell though :laugh3:

kornerking
September 29th, 2010, 05:41 PM
Pete and Leo, I hope we all end up at the same bar sometime:grin:



What I like about Leo is that we can jab each other but neither takes offense. :2thumbsup:

But the bar idear is a good one.

As long as it's not a sushi bar. Ok Leo

Leo G
September 29th, 2010, 05:55 PM
Raw fish...blech.

I am an internet punching bag :grin:

JumboJack
September 29th, 2010, 06:14 PM
:grin:
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k231/JumboJack19/sushi002.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k231/JumboJack19/sushi009.jpg
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k231/JumboJack19/sushi003.jpg

nEighter
September 29th, 2010, 06:15 PM
speaking of daughters.. that Bristol Palin is in my radar for sure.. wowzas!

Silvertree
September 29th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Well then Tulsa, your doing damage control.

I hope to avoid that.

So then, what can you add that might help someone else from screwing up?

You ain't just gonna hang here without helping, will you?

Silvertree
September 29th, 2010, 07:35 PM
Nothing I could say would make any difference to anyone, except maybe on a one on one basis. And I have mentored my fair share of troubled young males.

Fair enough.

Leo G
September 29th, 2010, 07:40 PM
And I have mentored my fair share of troubled young males.

Get the bad image out of my mind.......:grin:

ModernStyle
September 29th, 2010, 08:06 PM
Send me some RC business cards sucka .............
I handle my daughters like they are straight from heaven, my sons get tough love because I expect them to be better then I ever was

Leo G
September 29th, 2010, 09:26 PM
Modern, KornerKing....what's one more.


























You do realize I am a MOD now....right? :grin:

kornerking
September 30th, 2010, 08:05 AM
Modern, KornerKing....what's one more.


















You do realize I am a MOD now....right? :grin:

Leo, says more about you than us.

In my neck of the woods we call your type "arrogant sob's" ( where did that finger smilie go?)

tompa
September 30th, 2010, 10:13 PM
I've got a daughter and 4 granddaughters, all spoiled! Just the way it's suppose to be! You did well, Paul!