RRP might be reason to close transfer stations

[JasonW]

RRP might be reason to close transfer stations (http://www.remodelcrazy.com/2010/headline/ny-transfer-station-closing-construction-waste.html)


By: Jason Whipple
Remodel Crazy


In Washington County, NY the RRP rule might be responsible for closing down transfer stations.

While budgets are getting tighter and tighter in this downed economy, Counties and small towns need to try and make ends meet. In Washington County, NY a decision will soon be made to keep several transfer stations open, or close them for good. These transfer stations take household garbage, recyclables, leaves, yard debris, and even Construction debris.

Today I spoke with a few of the attendants and it sounds like (at the least) they will most likely stop taking in Construction debris. The problem, it seems, is that it may be too much to ask employee's that they monitor all the waste that comes in from Construction projects.

Link - RRP might be reason to close transfer stations (http://www.remodelcrazy.com/2010/headline/ny-transfer-station-closing-construction-waste.html)

[Bodger]

Just make construction illegal and let the government fine us for working at all.

[Leo G]

Nothing has changed. Only the law. It had always been done that way. Clouds of dust are just normal for those transfer stations. They have always been toxic clouds. Nothing is different except the lawyers can have at it legally now.

[RCP]

I did a bid on a remodel job a few weeks ago, the GC said the landfill would not accept the lathe/plaster without a Lead Test.

[bconley]

I did a bid on a remodel job a few weeks ago, the GC said the landfill would not accept the lathe/plaster without a Lead Test.
The EPA laws state (http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/hhwmemo-july00fnl.pdf) that the landfills must take any lead containing construction debris from a residential property

[Leo G]

The EPA laws state that the landfills must take any lead containing construction debris from a residential property

Yep, I remember that being stated. If the states were allowed to disallow the waste then where could it possibly go.

What I don't get is nothing has changed. The waste is the same as it was before RRP. The only thing different is all the plastic bags.

[JasonW]

Yes, and County run transfer stations that have to "Transfer" the stuff, don't need to offer that service if they don't want to. Much easier to balance their budget by closing them down and not dealing with it.

I don't even know where the nearest landfill is around me.

[Eieio]

Yes, and County run transfer stations that have to "Transfer" the stuff, don't need to offer that service if they don't want to. Much easier to balance their budget by closing them down and not dealing with it.

I don't even know where the nearest landfill is around me.

Where do you take your construction debris?


We have a small local dump in DC that trucks it out the city to Maryland.. They do a good job recycling materials, They keep water hoses going all day long to keep the dust down, they do a decent job at it

[RCP]

I sent an email to the landfill/county for clarification, have not heard back. I thought the same thing. They did not refuse to accept, just wanted to see the results.
The GC was one I did not know and he was pretty evasive when I tried to pin him down.

[JasonW]

Where do you take your construction debris?


We have a small local dump in DC that trucks it out the city to Maryland.. They do a good job recycling materials, They keep water hoses going all day long to keep the dust down, they do a decent job at it

I take it to the Washington County transfer station. The closings are County wide for budget reasons. I got the "low down" on the construction debris from the workers who know their jobs are on the line.

There are a few articles written in the local papers about the possible closing but nothing mentioned about the lead dust threat that seems to be the motive behind refusing construction debris.

I would say that about 80% of the homes around us are pre 78 so the chance of lead dust contamination is much higher in certain areas, most certainly ours. I'm sure it will be handled differently in each situation. This is how they plan to handle it here.

[Tommy]

The EPA laws state (http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/hhwmemo-july00fnl.pdf) that the landfills must take any lead containing construction debris from a residential property


That just says the the EPA doesn't count it as hazardous waste.

From page 4:

We encourage contractors and residents to contact their state, local and/or tribal government to
determine whether any restrictions apply to the disposal of residential LBP waste. This
verification is necessary since, under RCRA, . Thus, under
such circumstanStates, local and tribal governments can enforce
regulations that are more stringent or broader in scope than the federal requirementsces, LBP waste from households may still be regulated as a hazardous waste as a
matter of State regulations.

[Dusty]

What exactly is a transfer station?

Is this a place where you take your garbage and they in turn take it to a landfill?

[JasonW]

What exactly is a transfer station?

Is this a place where you take your garbage and they in turn take it to a landfill?

That's exactly what it is.

[Bender]

What exactly is a transfer station?

Is this a place where you take your garbage and they in turn take it to a landfill?

Yes, for twice the price:rolleyes3:

[kevjob]

I was stunned to learn after the dangerous lead leaves the jobsite it is thrown into the landfill as if nothing is wrong with it possibly leaking into ground water. :deal2::surrender:

[framer55]

I was stunned to learn after the dangerous lead leaves the jobsite it is thrown into the landfill as if nothing is wrong with it possibly leaking into ground water. :deal2::surrender:

actually at least in NY, a landfill is made up of many layers of clay and plasic sheeting to prevent any leakage into groundwater.

Jason, you live in Vermont and take your debris to a NY dump??? What's up with that??

[JasonW]

Jason, you live in Vermont and take your debris to a NY dump??? What's up with that??

#1) I live directly on the NY/VT boarder. From my house, I can just about hit the NY boarder with a rock if I threw it from my side door. The transfer station is 1.5 miles from me.

#2) It's a pay per use station. I have to pay to take it there each time by buying tickets and since 90% of the C&D I take there comes from NY jobs and it's on the way home, that's where it goes.

#3) No body bitches about me spending my grocery money just down the road from them in NY do they? I spend close to $800 per month at the NY grocery store.

#4) They get some of my tax money because I do so much work over there AND some school tax money because our school district is split up in a way that our 2 boys actually go to Granville, NY High School.

The only thing I can't do in NY is Vote or get a reasonable deal on a fishing license:surrender:

[framer55]

#1) I live directly on the NY/VT boarder. From my house, I can just about hit the NY boarder with a rock if I threw it from my side door. The transfer station is 1.5 miles from me.

#2) It's a pay per use station. I have to pay to take it there each time by buying tickets and since 90% of the C&D I take there comes from NY jobs and it's on the way home, that's where it goes.

#3) No body bitches about me spending my grocery money just down the road from them in NY do they? I spend close to $800 per month at the NY grocery store.

#4) They get some of my tax money because I do so much work over there AND some school tax money because our school district is split up in a way that our 2 boys actually go to Granville, NY High School.

The only thing I can't do in NY is Vote or get a reasonable deal on a fishing license:surrender:

Easy Jason, just wondering.

Is the Town of Qweensbury dump still open?

[Bender]

#1) I live directly on the NY/VT boarder. From my house, I can just about hit the NY boarder with a rock if I threw it from my side door. The transfer station is 1.5 miles from me.

#2) It's a pay per use station. I have to pay to take it there each time by buying tickets and since 90% of the C&D I take there comes from NY jobs and it's on the way home, that's where it goes.

#3) No body bitches about me spending my grocery money just down the road from them in NY do they? I spend close to $800 per month at the NY grocery store.

#4) They get some of my tax money because I do so much work over there AND some school tax money because our school district is split up in a way that our 2 boys actually go to Granville, NY High School.

The only thing I can't do in NY is Vote or get a reasonable deal on a fishing license:surrender:
Damn, you New Yorkers are sensitive:rolleyes3:







:laugh3::grin:

[OldRedFord]

And what was going on at these dumps for the past 30 odd years? Now its a issue?