What do you think about this??

[Leo G]

I had to incorporate a corbel into a pilaster. Usually I make my own corbels and they sit atop of the pilaster. This one needs to sit on the pilaster because of its shape.

This is what I came up with. I wrapped the flutes around the pilaster so it wouldn't look like a bad termination of the flutes. Anyone hate it?:whistling

The mock up is Poplar but the real thing will be Maple stained a darker brown with orange undertones

http://fototime.com/3527ADDFC0B3A70/orig.jpg

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[ParamountPaint]

I think I might shorten the overall length of the flutes...like back them off a bit on each end. It looks pretty good, though. What is this cabinet?

[Eieio]

The Corbell seems undersized..

[Leo G]

The corbel is what it is. The next size up is to big for the pc and the other is to deep. I had to work within the constricts of the granite. The original one we picked out was bigger. If I could have found something wider that they liked I would have steered them towards that.

This is what I have to work with.

[Leo G]

I think I might shorten the overall length of the flutes...like back them off a bit on each end. It looks pretty good, though. What is this cabinet?

I think it is just a perspective thing, here is a view from a different angle.

http://fototime.com/E6E4197C00792DF/orig.jpg

http://fototime.com/DA7572E33EDE614/orig.jpg

[WarriorWithWood]

I think I might shorten the overall length of the flutes...like back them off a bit on each end. It looks pretty good, though. What is this cabinet?

I had the same thought. It's the perspective that matters, how does it look at installed height when standing and looking at it Leo?

[Leo G]

1st picture shows that perspective. It is raised about 1 1/4" off the ground, but that shouldn't change it too much.

[Dusty]

Can you just use a different bit and narrow the width of the flutes? They seem a little over bearing and I think thinner groves would provide just the right accent. You want the corbell to be the accent piece. Not the Flutes. As it stands the two designs are fighting for the eye's attention.

Yea. I like the design. It's busy, but in a large kitchen those cabinets will look beautiful.

[Leo G]

You're the second person to say that.





Denied. :grin:

[Bodger]

I don't hate it, but it seems kind of busy under the corbel in that first pic. Like too much detail coming together all at once.

[Dusty]

You're the second person to say that.





Denied. :grin:

No. Paramount suggested that you shorten the flutes, I suggested that you narrow them. Make them skinny or thinner.

What kind of wood worker doesn't know the difference between length and width? If you prefer the fat flutes, rock on. You have most of them routed don't you?


Girth will be discussed in a different thread since it doesn't pertain to this matter. And Bodger, please no fat flute jokes.

[Leo G]

No. Paramount suggested that you shorten the flutes, I suggested that you narrow them. Make them skinny or thinner.

What kind of wood worker doesn't know the difference between length and width? If you prefer the fat flutes, rock on. You have most of them routed don't you?


Girth will be discussed in a different thread since it doesn't pertain to this matter. And Bodger, please no fat flute jokes.

Different forum Honey. And no, I went on to do something different while the HO and the forums were deciding on how I should go forward.

I'll add my .05. I like the flute pattern but I think the flutes are too large. Same pattern and smaller flutes

[nEighter]

Leo, don't take the flutes up into the corbel area, stop them all down below that ornament say.. 2". You could do the same for down below also.

[nEighter]

maybe not for the bottom piece.. thought you had software to do a virtual piece before you did the piece fow real..

[Leo G]

Its a mock up. I do it all the time. A lot of people can visualize what it looks like. And sometimes it is easier to do it in real life then to do it virtually. I have a hard time making my flutes have round tops, the program makes them with flat tops and there is an extra step to make them with round tops.

I don't even have the correct wood in the shop right now to make the pilasters.

[nEighter]

is this one going to be stained?

[Leo G]

You need to read grasshopper. This is in the first post.

The mock up is Poplar but the real thing will be Maple stained a darker brown with orange undertones

[nEighter]

ok pot..........

[bconley]

A panel might look nice, something like this?
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[Leo G]

It is being based off of this photo

http://fototime.com/E5136959BA6E368/standard.jpg

[bconley]

Then just put that moulding below the corbel and forget the staggered flutes

[Leo G]

Doesn't work with the corbel I have. The corbel in the pic is sitting atop the pilaster and is terminated by it. The corbel is also a lot shorter in the picture. See how long the flutes are. With the corbel that was chosen for mine it took up a lot more vertical space. If I just stop the flutes below the corbel they would look short and there would be a lot of blank space. I think that would look worse then having the flutes surround the bottom of the corbel.

Putting a molding across the bottom of the corbel, a capitol, would do the same thing, leave a lot of empty space.

Here was the response from my client about the mock up. I having a hard time reading her, you think she likes it?

A brilliant move! It's stunning. I'm totally blown away!

[bconley]

Glad she likes it.
I just think it looks a little off for some reason.
You must too or you wouldn't be asking.
Anyway, how about something along these lines? add some projection and narrow up the flutes so it doesn't look so squatted.

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[Dusty]

Glad she likes it.
I just think it looks a little off for some reason.
You must too or you wouldn't be asking.
Anyway, how about something along these lines? add some projection and narrow up the flutes so it doesn't look so squatted.

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Yes. That is closer to what I was picturing in my head.

[Leo G]

I posted it because I had never done something like it before.

I can't add projection. I have a limited space because of the granite top. It is only so big and what I have now is already pushing it. If I had the space I would have use the corbel with the deeper projection, that is what the client wanted also. But because of the size of the granite compromises had been made.

This is the layout of the island. The rough slab is 110" long
http://fototime.com/690DBFA905C47FB/standard.jpg


I believe your picture has a reeded pilaster.

[nEighter]

yes Leo, but that photo is still showing the flutes coming up to the same height and stopping.

[scooter]

Do you do your fluting freehand or do you jig?

[Leo G]

I use a fence for the placement and just a line for the start and termination.

[Leo G]

Like it or not, most of it is done. I have two cabinets that get two pilaster/corbel details.

I got the open shelf cabinet done and the MW cabinet has the pilasters gluing up on them.

Crappy phone pic
http://fototime.com/76D4DFFFAD32A13/orig.jpg

[Leo G]

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[Leo G]

Because of a big change in the length of the kitchen I had to modify a few things and one of them was the sink cabinet. One of you guys suggested that I should add the 21" I had to make up with fluted pilasters on the sink cabinet.

Well, I did put them on, but not 21" worth. Added 10" to the cabinet.

So, is this normal and boring enough for you guys?

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[bconley]

You will be the plumbers hero.
Did you let them know that the countertop depth is going to be changing?
Sometimes the material is already selected or purchased and or limited in availability.

[Leo G]

Depth is not changing. The top molding is 3/4" thick, same as the door. The pilaster is only 3/8" thick. She specifically did not want a bump out sink. I tried to sell her on it a few times but no go. I think it would have looked nice.

[Winchester]

I think you made lemoneade out of lemons and it looks good. I do prefer the way the flutes are terminated in the last pic of bconley's though.

[orson]

I can't believe you call yourself a woodworker with that shoddy work. :grin:

[Leo G]

Ya I know, embarrassing, isn't it? I don't know why people insist on paying me.

[Taylordhome]

I think it looks great!