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Eieio
August 23rd, 2009, 01:27 PM
What has been your most difficult framing project to date? Mine was the replacement of rafters on a row house that the owner was trying to save as much of the original structure as possible to get a tax credit.
Scab City.
Simpson clips made a mint on the project. Seems like a waste but he got his wish
Bodger
August 24th, 2009, 02:47 PM
Most difficult one I ever had was a remodel as well. I had to leave two walls standing to still call it a remodel. Everything was crap. Including the foundation.
Old studs, something like 2 3/4" X 2 1/2", house was built in 1918 down at the ocean and was never intended to be a long term structure, just a clapboard beach house.
Everything was rotted and termite riddled. I had to underpin the foundy, replace the redwood mud sill with P.T., hook it with UFP's, and scab on new
2x studs the whole run.
All the blocking had to be scabbed onto as well, the city would not allow me to pull it and replace it. Top plates scabbed, sole plate scabbed, all done just to meet the rerquirements of a remodel and leave the minimum amount of the old structure.
I too, used so many Simpson products on the job it was ridiculous. And the engineer kept busy with calculations to prove the deflection values of all the cobbled together crap we did. He had to come every other day because we had to think it up as we went along, and what we did depended on what we found and how we solved it.
Sometimes building regulations run counter to common sense.
Silvertree
August 24th, 2009, 05:04 PM
I did a fire job and had to replace all the rafters on a cut up attic space, 4 gables meeting in the center with doghouse dormers, all full 2" x 4" oak framing.
It was a farmhouse with 10 acres of oak trees, the original house was built with lumber harvested on site.
Insurance paid for replace in like kind. 2x4 oak.
Bodger
August 24th, 2009, 06:35 PM
I did a fire job and had to replace all the rafters on a cut up attic space, 4 gables meeting in the center with doghouse dormers, all full 2" x 4" oak framing.
It was a farmhouse with 10 acres of oak trees, the original house was built with lumber harvested on site.
Insurance paid for replace in like kind. 2x4 oak.
Must have been pure hell trying to use a pneumatic nailer on the hard-assed oak. I can envision pilot holes for every 10d
naptownCr
August 24th, 2009, 09:12 PM
Just crank the pressure up and hope the oak isn't too dry
ChrWright
August 24th, 2009, 10:06 PM
Most difficult for me was a 2nd floor addition. The original house was 1920s, with a detached garage. At some point, the garage and house were connected and a single story flat roof was put on the connection.
We were to remove the flat roof and built a second floor over it.
To say it was a jacked up mess is the understatement of the year. Nothing was where you would expect it to be.
We found two old covered porch roofs that were incorporated into the flat roof--one of which covered part of the kitchen, which we were keeping.
A steel beam was buried as well---one end bearing mid-span of a 10' 2x10 window header, and the other end was pocketed into an old brick wall. The pocketed brick was cutout 3 courses below the beam and the gap filled with two 2x4s nailed together as a mini-post... :censored:
I've never had to install as many engineered beams in one floor system before or since. The engineer specs were a mile long.
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loneframer
August 24th, 2009, 10:14 PM
Here are a few of my more difficult ones. no trusses either. All stick built.
Eieio
August 24th, 2009, 10:15 PM
See those 2x12 beams, damn all the fancy, smancy Engineered lumber
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loneframer
August 24th, 2009, 10:18 PM
couple more
Eieio
August 24th, 2009, 10:21 PM
Here you go Chris
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loneframer
August 24th, 2009, 10:32 PM
and a few mo
ChrWright
August 24th, 2009, 10:43 PM
Here you go Chris
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Love it. :laugh3:
Are you fixing the old part next?
ChrWright
August 24th, 2009, 10:45 PM
Beautiful work Lone. :2thumbsup:
Eieio
August 24th, 2009, 10:47 PM
Love it. :laugh3:
Are you fixing the old part next?
Yes we are suppose to. The bank is really being difficult with the owners
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WarnerConstInc.
August 24th, 2009, 10:51 PM
Yes we are suppose to. The bank is really being difficult with the owners
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Because they bought a condemed house??
Eieio
August 24th, 2009, 10:54 PM
We gutted and restored this house in Capitol hill it is on the historic register only pics along with the kitchen
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Eieio
August 24th, 2009, 10:56 PM
Because they bought a condemed house??
No one would touch it. Crazy Rory at it again. That was a fun job lots of scarey moments on that one
Bodger
August 24th, 2009, 11:20 PM
We gutted and restored this house in Capitol hill it is on the historic register only pics along with the kitchen
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Lots of scary change order moments?
Eieio
August 24th, 2009, 11:31 PM
Lots of scary change order moments?
Actually only 2 or 3 one for a stair case revision and one to repair the spray foam, aluminum metal, fake me out stucco corner thingy.
ChrWright
August 24th, 2009, 11:35 PM
Actually only 2 or 3 one for a stair case revision and one to repair the spray foam, aluminum metal, fake me out stucco corner thingy.
That was "structural" spray foam, right? :laugh3:
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