Shutter Job

[Leo G]

I started a thread over there but I figure I can continue it over here :builder2:

I made 17- 17"x53" and 2- 12"x43" two panel exterior shutters for a house that I have done a bunch of work in. I made them from Spanish Cedar and painted them before I went on my 1 week vacation.

Got to the house about 10am, had to load the truck in the morning. I was afraid the paint might stick if I stacked them overnight. I hate latex because of this.

Started with the two small shutters, used a jig I made, worked great. I made hanger pcs that were 15/16" thick, 1 1/8" wide with a 6 1/2º angle and the length of the ID of the rails. Those got mounted on the clapboard and had to be cut to width [with the angle] depending on where they sat on the clapboard. The shutter had a 3/16" hole drilled in the top and bottom of the shutter. So the shutter hung on the upper and lower hangers and the screw held the shutters to the hanger. The only thing you would see was the bottom screw on the 2nd story shutters. I painted them.

I also put on shutter dogs that the HO provided, had to drill a 3/32 hole in them for a brass nail. I couldn't believe how hard these cast pcs were. I broke 4 drill bits. I used one of the broken ones with about 1/4" of the flutes left. I could get about 1 1/2 holes drilled before I would have to resharpen it. So bad that I decided I would go back there tomorrow to put the last 7 on. I am going to bring them to the shop and use my drill press and get them don in a snap.

I finished up around 6:30. Didn't have my camera with me, so I asked the HO to take a few before pics, I'll get the after pics tomorrow.

Ain't that great!!! No pics :mad2:


Well, here's a few from the shop.

http://fototime.com/FD31A99321DABB9/orig.jpg

Exciting Huh??:rolleyes3:

[ChrWright]

Nice work Leo. Why the odd # on the 17s?

Where'd he get the dogs from?

[Leo G]

One of the windows was right buy the back entryway that had an overhanging roof. Not enough room for the second shutter. Not my idea, that is what they wanted. I don't know where they got the dogs from.

The woman of the house measured the windows and they gave me the dimensions through an email. I made them to their specs only to find out the 2nd story windows were 4" shorter than the lowers. I was bummed, but I knew we wouldn't be making more shutters. So I just balanced them out and they look fine. I asked the husband if he noticed if anything was off and he looked for a few minutes and he didn't notice. Then I told him and mentioned that the wife took the measurements and that I thought that she might have assumed the uppers were the same as the lowers. She insisted she measured all the windows. Not possible though.

I'd like to slap the guys who sided the house, a lot of the clapboard was arranged differently on the same side of a the house, the windows were different and I had to take individual measurements to adjust the hangers instead of taking the top and bottom measurement of one window and applying it to all of them on the same wall.

[ChrWright]

Sucks you had to modify them. It's the kind of thing that can drive you nuts when a job is done.

Looking forward to seeing the finished pics.

I've done few shutter projects, but always outsourced the build. I'll bet your shop smelled good while you were making them.:2thumbsup:

[Leo G]

Spanish Cedar, smell good? Are you daft boi? I have named this wood 'Puke Wood'. I despise this wood. I hate when I have to use it, but it is a very good exterior wood. The oils in it get all over your hands, face, everything. Then you go to have your sandwich at lunchtime and you can taste it. It is gawd awful.

I have almost puked because of this wood. It is one of the few woods where I wear a respirator when I use it. A dust mask isn't good enough.

[ChrWright]

I love the smell of Spanish Cedar... But I've never had to build a whole project out of it so I'll have to defer to you on it's "Puke-Inducing" qualities...:grin:

[WarnerConstInc.]

I now know what daft means. It means loading and un loading things when not needed.

That stuff is greasier than popeye's chicken.

[Dusty]

What is a shutter dog?

[tomstruble]

its a little curlycue piece of metal that holds the shutter to the wall when they are open

sorry Leo hope i not steppin on your toes:2thumbsup:

[Leo G]

Darn it Tom, I was the only one in the whole world who was suppose to know what a shutter dog is. Now it's gonna spread like wild fire....SE WHAT YOU DID !! :mad2:

[Leo G]

Before:
http://fototime.com/A6589C274AEB690/orig.jpg

After:
http://fototime.com/941A11BD7C8278E/orig.jpg

http://fototime.com/9DDC10228237EBF/orig.jpg

http://fototime.com/AC1CC39CB4D45FE/orig.jpg

[Leo G]

http://fototime.com/2F27D6AB0C14C7C/orig.jpg

http://fototime.com/C935FCB847C98C7/orig.jpg

She got the Shutter Dogs from Van Dykes.

[ChrWright]

Nice details. Makes a huge difference in the look of the house.

Did the house have cheap shutters before or nothing at all?

[Leo G]

Nothing at all, refer to Before: picture :mad2:

[Eieio]

Are those home depot shutters?

[Leo G]

Nope, K-mart - tree fiddy each.

[Eieio]

Ok on a serious note Is that vinyl siding?

[ChrWright]

Nothing at all, refer to Before: picture :mad2:

Ahhh... Looks like new siding--didn't know if this was part of a complete face lift.

[Leo G]

Wooden clap, I think it is cedar, I didn't see it going up even though I was around during the building stages. These people have a lot of money into my bank account. A very large kitchen, a bar area, a wall to wall floor to ceiling entertainment center, 2 HO designed vanities, a computer desk, a front door and now the shutters.

She is sad because she can't really think of many more things for me to make for her. I told her it's about time to move to another fixer upper home then. And she said that isn't out of the question. I just nodded my head and said "when?"

[naptownCr]

Wooden clap, I think it is cedar, I didn't see it going up even though I was around during the building stages. These people have a lot of money into my bank account. A very large kitchen, a bar area, a wall to wall floor to ceiling entertainment center, 2 HO designed vanities, a computer desk, a front door and now the shutters.

She is sad because she can't really think of many more things for me to make for her. I told her it's about time to move to another fixer upper home then. And she said that isn't out of the question. I just nodded my head and said "when?"

Start sending her realestate listings.

Nice job Leo

[tomstruble]

looks great Leo

[neolitic]

..........
Started with the two small shutters, used a jig I made, worked great. I made hanger pcs that were 15/16" thick, 1 1/8" wide with a 6 1/2º angle and the length of the ID of the rails. Those got mounted on the clapboard and had to be cut to width [with the angle] depending on where they sat on the clapboard. The shutter had a 3/16" hole drilled in the top and bottom of the shutter. So the shutter hung on the upper and lower hangers and the screw held the shutters to the hanger. The only thing you would see was the bottom screw on the 2nd story shutters. I painted them.
..........

I was interested in how you were
doing this after the discussion earlier,
but I'm completely lost here.
I'm missing what the 2 screws are
screwed into, and what part of the shutter
is hanging on the hanger?
Can you go through this again for the
cognitively impaired? :o

[Bender]

Nice work Leo:)

What product did you prime and paint them with?

[Leo G]

Eveything Was suppose to be Ben Moore. So I started with Fresh start Acylic. And then she decided she wanted a Sherwin Williams color the the local BM distributor couldn't reproduce faithfully. So I used SW Duration.

[neolitic]

Still trying to figure out how
those hangers work? :o

[Leo G]

http://fototime.com/D6FD609DC7E1022/orig.jpg

[Winchester]

House looks way better with those nice shutters.

[Leo G]

"10-q".......

[neolitic]

http://fototime.com/D6FD609DC7E1022/orig.jpg

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilienotworthy.gif
I never said I wasn't dense, did I? :grin:

[Leo G]

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/neoliticman/smilienotworthy.gif
I never said I wasn't dense, did I? :grin:


No, you never did say that :mad2:

[katoman]

Hi Leo, I had some custom wood shutters to install a few months ago. Didn't want to screw through them and ruin the paint job. Also, this is an area that will eventually cause rot.

I found an aluminum channel called "Z channel" . By mounting two pieces on the back of the shutter, and two corresponding pieces on the wall, I simply "hung" the shutters.

It was a very snug fit. The one channel locks over the other. No chance of them falling off, and the HO was quite impressed.

[Leo G]

That might work. But the problem is that the depth of the mount is different because of the angle of the shutters. Not sure if the z channel could be adjusted. Would have been nice. A little late though. Thanks anyway.